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Old 07-02-2003, 10:12 AM   #1
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Too many process? Keeping my Linux 'Tidy'


'Tidy' is a word I use a lot as a welshman. And I want my Linux system to run tidy. Anyway, I'll get to the point

Mainly, I have 30+ (cant see the rest in top, how do you scroll down?) kdeinit processes. Not normal surely. i've about 5 xmms what ever its called as well. Am I not killing the apps properly? Is thewre a way i can say to linux kill every app not being used, like garbage collecting in java or sumfin?

How do i not get this problem in future?

The other point is whats the linux equivilant of the program files directory in m$ windows? stuff seems to install everywhere which is disconcerting, linux was even quite hapy to install ut2003 demo in my home directory! (how the hell would someone else play it?) anyway, thats not the point, so many bin directories lying about, i only wantto use a bare few, so everytinh is in nearly the same place.

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Old 07-02-2003, 10:30 AM   #2
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there's a LOT more that you can see is going on in linux, ALL processes will be reported, not just the actual programs (with not saying "Not Responding" of course) you shouldn't worry about additional processes, it's probably just multithreading in xmms that is causing it to come up more than once.

installation.. there is no Program Files. things are placed in locations becuase of what they are, file by file. program files go in a /bin directory, configuration files go in /etc/ or your home directory. this scales indefinitely, and makes so os much more sense in temrs of a networked system. Please don't think it is in the slightest bit bad.. just different.

as for ut2k3... you will have installed it as a noraml user and not root... that's the point of having a REAL user system in unix, rather than the embarrasing cludge that windows has.
 
Old 07-02-2003, 10:37 AM   #3
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oh yeah, not disputing the fact im going to find things very wierd moving from windows, and im sure its all for the best.

xxms was running (as processes) whilst not running as an app. that still normal? okay, i cant take the idea of a process literally as a task, far too alien probably.

for the last week ive been into windows xp (a good system i feel, the first time ive said that about a m$ os) only to play halflife!!!! SuSE 8.2 is my official system now.

After years of trying linux in phases, I've finnaly been converted
 
Old 07-02-2003, 10:39 AM   #4
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hmm, well maybe you're actually minimizing it instead of closing itas no it shouldn't have processes once it's closed. if you're getting this information from "ps ax" or similar, you can kill the process by "kill processnumber. but obvoiusly you shouldn't normally need to.
 
Old 07-02-2003, 10:42 AM   #5
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oh, and whats the best way of organising m linux system accross my 8gig harddisk, partition for each folder in / ? Or probably, a separate partition for home as ive read? thing is, is there an easy way of mving this to a new partition. before, when i was using the live eval of suse (comes on a cd), i remounted etc and something else to my hdd, so i could install some modem drivers (otherwise read only ), i copied the files, and forcefully remounted this in the partition gui program, causing lots of problems.

many thanks (again)
 
Old 07-02-2003, 10:45 AM   #6
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SO IF IVE NOTHING in the taskbar and nothing major in the system tray, no windows open, i can be assured nothing is open withouit my knowledge? (that doenst need to be that is)

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how many partitions you have will depend, most typ[ically, on how comfortable you are on it, as you will need to be aware of *why* you want seperate partitions. you can survive with / by itself, a common simple system may well contain / /boot /home and /usr. you can then go further still, say have a /var partition to stop mail flooding killing your system (after you maybe learn the hard way ) and other ones as you see fit.
 
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well i presume you're on KDE (which sucks ass btw ) so i wouldn't know, normally yeah that sounds about right. might be on a different workspace though...
 
  


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