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Old 01-22-2019, 08:43 AM   #1
Drosera_capensis
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LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and the nightmarish installation of the later.


Hello, I*got two questions regarding OpenOffice.

I am working on Ubuntu 18.04.1. And it seems I*am genetically unable to install properly any software on my own on this OS. Thanks for you help.

First question:
I wish to install OpenOffice. I*have followed the tutorial below.
https://www.openoffice.org/download/...tructions.html
I use the tutorial "Linux DEB-based installation".
When reaching the step 3. I*use the command:
Code:
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
Then a serie of messages are appearing, which are:
Code:
Preparing to unpack openoffice-xsltfilter_4.1.6-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking openoffice-xsltfilter (4.1.6-1) ...
Setting up openoffice-ure (4.1.6-1) ...
Setting up openoffice-core01 (4.1.6-1) ...
But then, the software seems not to be installed.
Using the GUI package installer (in the installation directory), the dpkg command doesn't work.
Code:
dpkg: error: need an action option
Would anyone know how to install Apache OpenOffice?

Second question:
It is quoted in the Apache OpenOffice official website that the command to call the software is:
Code:
soffice
However, this command starts LibreOffice and not OpenOffice. Why?

Thanks for your help, cheers.

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Old 01-22-2019, 09:07 AM   #2
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I hate to ask but did you try using the package managers that ubuntu comes with?
 
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:34 AM   #3
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1. Did you follow the "Linux Pre-installation Notes" and remove the symlink? (You should test with "whereis soffice".)

2. Did you remember to install the "desktop-integration" package?

3. Are you sure you need OpenOffice? (Is there something specific you can't do with LibreOffice?)
 
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:31 AM   #4
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OP - keep in mind Linux is not like windows: you do not go out find software, download, then install. You use the distro's package manager to install the software you need. This way you can be assured that everything will work and that the software you install has been vetted by the folks who manage the software repositories for the distro you are using.

I believe openoffice is a dead project but I could be wrong.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 11:47 AM   #5
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Before installing OpenOffice you must uninstall LibreOffice, as some files have the same names. That's why the command "soffice" didn't work. Follow these instructions
https://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/08...-it-in-ubuntu/
but first clean up your system by purging both your LibreOffice and OpenOffice before starting again.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 12:10 PM   #6
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I believe openoffice is a dead project but I could be wrong.
No, it isn't: its sources have been made open source and donated to the Apache Foundation, where it has been re-branded as Apache OpenOffice www.openoffice.org/why/index.html.
They keep on maintaining and updating it.
 
Old 01-22-2019, 12:18 PM   #7
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No, it isn't: its sources have been made open source and donated to the Apache Foundation, where it has been re-branded as Apache OpenOffice www.openoffice.org/why/index.html.
They keep on maintaining and updating it.

While technically correct, it's a zombie of a package. They have issues even patching major security holes, the feature set is quite literally years behind LibreOffice at this point, and they have only a fraction the number of active developers as LibreOffice, with no major sponsorship from companies.


While it is still developed, it is all but dead, and LibreOffice is superior in every fashion.

As to OP, I'd second asking WHY you want to install OpenOffice when LibreOffice is included in Ubuntu.

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Old 01-28-2019, 08:43 AM   #8
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Thanks to the whole of you for the answers provided.

I think Timothy Miller has well summarized the situation.
I was unaware of this connection between LibreOffice and OpenOffice, and was just curious about this piece of software.

Thanks again for answering my question.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 02:22 PM   #9
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Use a LibreOffice AppImage -- doesn't conflict with OpenOffice

Before I give you an advice, let me satisfy my curiosity: Why would you want to install OpenOffice at all?

The only reason I can think of is: you are a historian specialiced in the history of software development, and you do research about ancient, un-updated, badly-maintained and developer-deprived software packages.

Anyway -- LibreOffice and OpenOffice are hard to install side by side if you use "traditional" packages, or if you self-compile from sources. The reason is: both are using the same file names and file locations for important components, so they overwrite each other (example: 'soffice').

The most easy way to work around this: uninstall LibreOffice completely, then install OpenOffice (no advice from me about how to do the latter).

To get LibreOffice back, use an official AppImage of LibreOffice.

AppImage is a non-"traditional" package format which implements the paradigm of "One App == One File". It is a self-contained binary (well, after downloading it you need to make it executable first) capable of running on my Linux distros, which does not conflict with your system-installed packages (so also not to your OpenOffice). Another advantage of LibreOffice.AppImage is that you can keep (and run side-by-side) multiple versions of LO.

Here is the download page; make your pick: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/appimage/

You can choose any single or mix of the following channels to satisfy your needs:

* 'fresh',
* 'still',
* 'daily',
* 'old' or
* 'pre-release'

Each channel has three language versions available:

* 'basic' with English only;
* 'standard' with English (US and GB), Arabic, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese (Brazilian and Portugal), Russian, Spanish;
* 'full' with all available translations included.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 02:30 PM   #10
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Correction for typo

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Originally Posted by pdfkungfoo View Post
{AppImage} is a self-contained binary [....] capable of running on my Linux distros, [....]
This was meant to say: "AppImage is a self-contained binary [....] capable of running on many Linux distros, [....]"
 
  


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