Software: OpenSuse 42.1; GrandOrgue
Hardware: Asus AM1I with 24G RAM

OpenSuse seems OK---can access web, etc. Apparently successfully installed GrandOrgue for OpenSuse 42.1 from OpenSuse repository. Icon (looks like organ keys) appeared in "Multimedia." Tried to launch the program, and the icon bounced for a few seconds and then disappeared. Tried removing and re-installing program---same result. Tried both RPM package and manual install---same result.

Checked permissions and set to rwx (777), and then went back to see that the permissions were truly rwx; they are rwx---same result, bouncing icon that disappears, but nothing more. As a hardware guy, I'm stumped.

Yes, you may try to steer me to OpenSuse Leap 15.0, but I already tried negotiating that maze---too many undefined requirements---couldn't even get online.

Please help!

Bill

Hi morharn, and welcome to LQ.

Usually the first diagnostic step taken when a GUI program fails in some way is to run the program from the command line and take note if any warnings or errors are produced in the terminal output. Can you try that?

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William Morong <morharn@gmail.com>

Sun, May 12, 8:31 PM (13 hours ago)

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Hi hydrurga,

Thanks for your help. When GrandOrgue was run from the command line, the error message copied below appeared. I have no idea what this message means, but an error message seems far better than a bouncing and disappearing icon.

Bill

Bill@linux-5o58:~> GrandOrgue
GrandOrgue: relocation error: GrandOrgue: symbol snd_seq_client_info_get_card, version A
LSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference

The latest 42 series, 42.3, reaches end of life next month so I'm not sure how you were able to download software for your version. I can't even find a repo for 42.1. Your problem seems to relate to mismatched lib file and as I can't see grandorgue in the current opensuse repos I'm not sure you'll be able to fix this in opensuse.
Have you tried the opensuse forums?

Hi Pete,

I downloaded 42.1 some months ago for a specific reason. At that time I tested well over 10 Linux distributions for compatibility with the pipe organ simulator GrandOrgue. At that time, and now, the Windows version works, and every Linux distribution save one truncates the menu bar which is needed to operate the organ. That one exception was, and still is, the GOLive CD which uses OpenSuse 42.1, so I thought it best to obtain the single Linux OS that seemed to work. At that time, and presently, the GrandOrgue people claim that the truncation is a Ubuntu/Debian/Mint problem. I've recently gone through a smaller testing effort to check out Manjaro because it's related to Arch, and Fedora. They all truncate the menu bar on both Intel and AMD hardware. I don't believe that it's an Ubuntu problem, nor do I blame Linux. The GrandOrgue folks now additionally claim that the problem can be solved using Debian stable & GTK & something else. Bandaids on bandaids!

I've been using Linux Mint for non-organ work for years---it works well for a wide variety of applications, and even does a good job with Windows programs running under Wine. It appears that the presently available GrandOrgue packages for Linux are not reliably compatible therewith. I doubt that Linux is the problem.

I'm a very capable hardware designer in the middle of a very challenging portable virtual organ design, and going through such mazes is impeding my work. I hope to get OpenSuse 42.1 to work. If not, I've got to stop wasting effort and regretfully use Windows.

Could you possibly attach a screenshot of the truncation?

So what were the specific steps they told you to follow which you referred to as bandaids?

Hi Hydrurga,

Please find attached screenshots of GranOrgue's demo organ running under Linux Mint 18.3 and under Windows 7. As you can see, the value display windows of the Mint display are truncated.

In addition, though some Linux distributions I tried last year did display the whole menu bar, the menu bar operation was defective. What happened in those cases was that when the arrows for incrementing the value in a little window hit some number, the window value would jump to some huge number, and had to be decremented one step at a time. I do not remember which distributions did the latter.

The GOLive version, a Live CD containing OpenSuse 42.1, the GrandOrgue application, and some boot files, displays just as does the Windows version, and operates properly. I have yet to get OpenSuse to take a screenshot, but in any case that picture would be redundant.

Examination of forums shows that the sorts of problems that I've encountered have been showing up for years. Supposed solutions have been recommended, but have not worked reliably in many cases. It appears the the latest proposal involving GTK is an attempt to bypass some native window managers---I don't know whether this proposal will work reliably, but have already done my time as a guinea pig.

It appears that to make the GOLive CD, some GrandOrgue folks managed to get GrandOrgue working properly on OpenSuse 42.1 and packaged the result as an .iso file. One could likely install GrandOrgue in an OpenSuse 42.1 system and steal the configurations from that CD to get a full installation working correctly for GrandOrgue.

Actually my problem seems to be solved. It was far from evident how to install the GOLive CD, but ambiguous and skimpy advice from one forum led me to search out and find the Yast Live Installer on the GOLive CD. When used, that installer yielded an organ-only OS, which was my original goal. Nevertheless, my afflictions and any work you do may benefit someone else.

Thanks,

Bill

i am assuming you used the suse repo and zypper
http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...8:/grandorgue/
there are a 15 leap rpm's last updated on may 17



the old and soon to be unsupported 42
http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...USE_Leap_42.1/
was last updated Jan 13

from your error
it looks like you have a incomparable repo installed
It might be oss or even suse update ( do to using 42.1 )

in leap 15 i just installed the repo and
installed everything and it runs just fine