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Old 09-23-2008, 07:53 AM   #46
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by the way this is the article:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...or_windows.htm
 
Old 09-24-2008, 07:25 AM   #47
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What about the License requirement for I.E.?
Using ies4linux to install, are we not still using the MS I.E. copy-right material.
Downloading a free copy of I.E. installer, I.E.6 (and/or I.E7 which require validation)
and install using wine on Linux os, would it also violate the MS license?
I think that it's only permissible to use this if you have a valid license for windows. Don't quote me on this, because I don't use windows on my boxes, and I certainly have no interest in reading the EULA and documents for their programs.

Only with the licenses on your hands and a lawyer on in front of you could you be fairly sure about what's legal and what isn't. It's impossible to be 100% sure, since in legal questions, usually it's money who buy the better lawyers, and the quality of the lawyer is usually which determines what the law is. At least, most times.




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You can't be sure all the horror stories you hear are true. But as I said above, you can be sure they are not in linux, because everyone can see the code. Could such a backdoor exist in windows: yes. Does it: no one will ever know, unless we all evolve into human supercomputers capable or reading x86 assembly fluently. Of course, if that happens, MS would sue the entire humanity because of licensing and patent issues.
 
Old 09-24-2008, 08:03 AM   #48
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I think that it's only permissible to use this if you have a valid license for windows. Don't quote me on this, because I don't use windows on my boxes, and I certainly have no interest in reading the EULA and documents for their programs.
True, but lame. IE license requires a windows license. Very lame if you ask me however some of us have Linux on computers that originally came with Windows and still have the OEM on the sticker on the box. So therefor installing IE would be legal. You still have the windows license, do you not?

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You can't be sure all the horror stories you hear are true. But as I said above, you can be sure they are not in Linux, because everyone can see the code. Could such a backdoor exist in windows: yes. Does it: no one will ever know, unless we all evolve into human supercomputers capable or reading x86 assembly fluently. Of course, if that happens, MS would sue the entire humanity because of licensing and patent issues.
Well, Microsoft knows if there is a backdoor. People exploit the government backdoors on a monthly basis. The media & Microsoft call them vulnerabilities.
 
Old 09-24-2008, 09:07 AM   #49
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1 day someone will be able to find out if there is a backdoor on M$crosoft OSs...
 
Old 10-06-2008, 05:09 AM   #50
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I just did a Google search about the NSA back door, I can't believe it! I didn't know about that. I heard about SONY ROOTKITS but Microsoft allowing to add a secret backdoor on their software... no good! I'm really happy I switched to Linux!!!
So can we just delete the AdvApi.dll file from the windows system folder.
Would it affect the windows performance and security?
 
Old 10-06-2008, 10:09 AM   #51
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I thought that the"back door" was there "random number generator " that MS used to replace the faulty one that everyone(MS,Linux,Apple,sun,ibm,...) was using.The new RNG was to be able to have a "master key" .I don't know if the master key real or not .
 
Old 10-06-2008, 02:24 PM   #52
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One thing I must say about the Windows' sub-user groups is they seemed to be designed more for protecting the user (i.e. "The Kids") than the computer.

But that's simply my own somewhat ignorant observation.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 02:29 PM   #53
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So can we just delete the AdvApi.dll file from the windows system folder.
Would it affect the windows performance and security?
umm I'm not really sure but I will give it a shot and see what happens to my computer.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 02:32 PM   #54
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I just run a c:\dir\s AdvApi.dll and nothing came up. umm I wonder if they renamed the file... ummm gotta luv M$crosoft!!!
 
Old 10-06-2008, 02:56 PM   #55
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I found it! well it is called advapi32.dll on c:\windows\system32. I read about this DLL on a website and it says that it is essential for the system to run properly. ( I wonder if that website belongs to M$cro$oft)
this is the link:

http://www.processlibrary.com/direct...advapi32/22015

if I get an old system I will erase the file and see what happens.

btw I found that file connecting my xp hd to my linux box!!!
 
Old 10-06-2008, 04:17 PM   #56
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to see what happens just rename the file to advapi32.dll.off from linux and reboot windows .
 
Old 10-06-2008, 04:33 PM   #57
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Or install in a VM and delete it. Then you risk absolutely nothing.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 07:14 PM   #58
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As safe as the user can make it.
When that question is asked people usually leave it to the user - it's hard to say, but people I talked to say Linux is safer from the beginning than Windows, but you can make each OS safer or not safe.

Debian

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Old 10-06-2008, 07:25 PM   #59
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Just to put things in perspective...

Does anyone remember PCWeek's web server hack thing? The Linux server was the first one cracked, IIRC. Just double-checked: http://www.spirit.com/Network/net1099.txt

Now, does this mean Windows NT was more secure than Linux? I would say no. Instead, I would say that the skill and knowledge level of Linux administrators/hackers is far greater than that of Windows NT admins/hackers.

But perhaps NT is more secure. Who can REALLY say?

I stick to my theory of higher skill level, though.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 07:39 PM   #60
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sorry...double post

Debian

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