Can't acces second hard drive on Zorin OS lite

maiko · 12-14-2012, 09:22 PM

Hi, i juste Switch to zorin OS Lite from window 8, and i can't seems to be able to access my second hard drive.

[img=http://Pictat.com/t/2012/12/15/418352012121422.png]

can some one help me, and without formatting it please?

Thanks.

yancek · 12-15-2012, 10:23 AM

The image you post shows that the 1TB drive is recognized and has no partition(s) and no filesystem. You might take a look at the link below which discusses partition(s) and filesystems on Linux. If you have data on this drive, what type of data/filesystem is it?:

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Basics_of...,_mount_points

maiko · 12-15-2012, 05:09 PM

I didn't format it since i had windows 8, the files on it date from before that, i think i transfert all my c: dick before installing zorin so it should have win8 on it too.

and for the type of date there is like video music games and more, all my other stuff goes on my second hard drive so if i catch a bug i just have that to lost even i don't want to but if a need to format and nothing else works i will do it.

Wim Sturkenboom · 12-15-2012, 11:21 PM

I'm not familiar with disk utility so I'm not sure what it shows. But the output of fdisk -l (lower case L at the end) might clarify. You probably need root privileges.

Code:

wim@aa0:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for wim: 

Disk /dev/sda: 8069 MB, 8069677056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 981 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0003255d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *           1         918     7367680   83  Linux
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2             918         981      509953    5  Extended
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5             918         981      509952   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 4127 MB, 4127195136 bytes
127 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 7874 * 512 = 4031488 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000451df

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *           1        1023     4027520    b  W95 FAT32
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
     phys=(1023, 126, 62) logical=(1022, 126, 62)

The above shows the 'main' harddisk (sda) with 2 partitions as well as a second hard disk (sdb) with one partition.

The other command that can help is mount

Code:

wim@aa0:~$ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/PENDRIVE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,shortname=winnt)

Please post the results of the 2 commands.

maiko · 12-16-2012, 11:26 AM

I will look a total newbie but where do i copy that? in the run box?

Wim Sturkenboom · 12-16-2012, 12:37 PM

Open a terminal with <ctrl><alt>t (that is, press control, alt and t at the same time). After running a command, you can select the result with the mouse and use <ctrl><shift>c to copy and next paste it in the browser.

//Edit
When pasting in a post on the forum, please use code tags for results from commands. Type [code], paste the result and type [/code]

So [code]paste text here[/code] gives below result

Code:

paste text here

maiko · 12-16-2012, 01:29 PM

That's the first code:

Code:

jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ wim@aa0:~$ sudo fdisk -l
wim@aa0:~$: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ [sudo] password for wim: 
[sudo]: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ 
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Disk /dev/sda: 8069 MB, 8069677056 bytes
No command 'Disk' found, did you mean:
 Command 'risk' from package 'xfrisk' (universe)
Disk: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 981 cylinders
255: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
No command 'Units' found, did you mean:
 Command 'units' from package 'units' (universe)
Units: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Disk identifier: 0x0003255d
No command 'Disk' found, did you mean:
 Command 'risk' from package 'xfrisk' (universe)
Disk: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ 
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
Device: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ /dev/sda1   *           1         918     7367680   83  Linux
bash: /dev/sda1: Permission denied
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
Partition: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ /dev/sda2             918         981      509953    5  Extended
bash: /dev/sda2: Permission denied
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
Partition: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ /dev/sda5             918         981      509952   82  Linux swap / Solaris
bash: /dev/sda5: Permission denied
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ 
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Disk /dev/sdb: 4127 MB, 4127195136 bytes
No command 'Disk' found, did you mean:
 Command 'risk' from package 'xfrisk' (universe)
Disk: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ 127 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
127: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Units = cylinders of 7874 * 512 = 4031488 bytes
No command 'Units' found, did you mean:
 Command 'units' from package 'units' (universe)
Units: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Disk identifier: 0x000451df
No command 'Disk' found, did you mean:
 Command 'risk' from package 'xfrisk' (universe)
Disk: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ 
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
Device: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ /dev/sdb1   *           1        1023     4027520    b  W95 FAT32
bash: /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
Partition: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$      phys=(1023, 126, 62) logical=(1022, 126, 62)^C

The second:

Code:

jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ wim@aa0:~$ mount
wim@aa0:~$: command not found
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ /dev/sdb1 on /media/PENDRIVE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,shortname=winnt)

Wim Sturkenboom · 12-16-2012, 01:37 PM

What you saw in post #4 was the commands (I did mark them in bold) plus their results. At the prompt (jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$) type sudo fdisk -l (remember, lowercase L) and press <enter> and post the results. Same for mount.

maiko · 12-16-2012, 01:46 PM

cant't type any password....

Code:

jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for jacinthe: 
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for jacinthe:

maiko · 12-16-2012, 01:48 PM

That for the mount command

Code:

jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/jacinthe/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=jacinthe)
jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$

yancek · 12-16-2012, 02:57 PM

Is this the only user you created for Zorin? jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ :
Also, after you type in the command and are prompted for a password, type it in carefully. You will NOT see any output on the screen so after typing it in, just hit the Enter key. Passwords are also case-sensitive.

If I understand correctly, the 1TB external is basically a backup with your windows files or do you also have a windows installation there?

maiko · 12-16-2012, 03:01 PM

That's the frist command thanks to yancek that tell me i can't see the password!!! but thxs it works

Code:

jacinthe@jacinthe-Bureau:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for jacinthe: 

Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00051e8a

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048   616753151   308375552   83  Linux
/dev/sda2       616755198   625141759     4193281    5  Extended
/dev/sda5       616755200   625141759     4193280   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x3f6fbd99

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *          63  1953520064   976760001    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Disk /dev/mapper/isw_hieifadie_Data-0: 1000.2 GB, 1000202178560 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121600 cylinders, total 1953519880 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x3f6fbd99

                            Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/mapper/isw_hieifadie_Data-0p1   *          63  1953520064   976760001    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Disk /dev/mapper/isw_hieifadie_Data: 1000.2 GB, 1000202174464 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121600 cylinders, total 1953519872 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x3f6fbd99

                         Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/mapper/isw_hieifadie_Data1   *          63  1953520064   976760001    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

//EDIT
yes it's the only user!
It's have a backup files and before installing zorin i copied all my primary disc (included win8...) that i think it dosent have all copied.!

Wim Sturkenboom · 12-16-2012, 10:17 PM

OK, from the fdisk command, it can be determined that your second hard disk is there (sdb) and it is partitioned (as it has sdb1).

I'm not familiar with Zorin (it's Ubuntu based if I'm not mistaken) but I expect the partition of the second harddisk to show in the file manager in which case and you can simply click (or double) click it. It might however have a 'funny' name in the file manager which makes it a little difficult to recognize. You can take a screenshot of the file manager (straight after you have opened it) and post it here (as you did for disk utility) and we can see if we can recognize it there.

An alternative 'workaround' is to create a mount point in the directory /mnt and mount the partition of the second hard drive there. This is a temporary solution meaning that you have to do this after each reboot; it can be made permanent.

Create mount point; you can use any sensible name instead of 'mywindowsdisk'

Code:

sudo mkdir /mnt/mywindowsdisk

Mount the partition

Code:

sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mywindowsdisk

Next you should be able to find it in the file manager by navigating to filesystem -> mnt -> mywindowsdisk.

OK, let us know what works.

maiko · 12-17-2012, 07:57 AM

file manager ? : [img=http://Pictat.com/t/2012/12/17/439462012121708.png]

(yes zorin it's suppose to be a unbutu base that what they say!)

Wim Sturkenboom · 12-17-2012, 09:20 AM

OK, in ubuntu it looks like the attachment. My windows partitions were labeled in windows, so are easily recognizable. But the 27GB and 125GB partitions are not so easily recognizable as to 'what they are'. 'Zorin' looks different; what are the options under the 'go' menu; if I remember correctly, older Ubuntu versions had the option to go other drives in there.

PS
I notice that in Zorin's filemanager you don't have a file system; instead, just beneath 'Videos' you have a folder called '/' that contains the folder 'mnt'.

PPS
If no other forum users are able to help, I suggest that you use the alternative approach that I mentioned.