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Old 11-13-2019, 01:24 AM   #46
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^ OK, thanks, l0f4r0.
3h is not much. Is it the same under Windows?
FWIW, mine lasts a few days(*); unless I watch movies, then it drains in a few hours.

(*) I'm hoping to extend that with the sort of full hibernation (suspend to disk, not RAM) IRS offers.
Of course I could also set it up with Linux, but I figure that it's better to choose the option provided by the BIOS.
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My biggest concern is power management and all sorts of laptop-specific things.
I am undereducated in that department and do not trust myself to set that up manually.
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Don't I recall that you're a Slackware fan? If I'm remembering correctly, why not run -current?
I'm not. But I'm intrigued: why would you recommend it for a laptop wrt to what i wrote?
 
Old 11-13-2019, 08:10 AM   #47
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I'm not. But I'm intrigued: why would you recommend it for a laptop wrt to what i wrote?

Nowadays MOST distro's have pretty close to identical hardware support given a new enough kernel. So any distro really will work with most hardware, doubly if it's got things that are mostly covered by free firmware (Intel). So if someone is a fan of Slackware (I personally dislike using the OS, although any linux user should give it mad respect simply because of it being the oldest distro still active) using -current works quite well with most modern hardware. And of course, the simple fact is that Slackware is the most Unix-like of any linux, which is why so many people love it so much. It's simple (NOT simple as in easy, this is where many people get confused), leaves the configuration to the user, doesn't enable things behind your back, etc. While release (14.2) is archaic at this point (4.4 kernel, doesn't support NVMe drives, highly outdated mesa, etc), -current doesn't have those issues and works well.


To be honest, I'd most suggest whatever distro you'd say is your favorite, it probably works just fine on most modern hardware. I use Debian (with backports kernel) on modern hardware and it works fine too, and next to Slackware, Debian is normally one of the most outdated distro's available (but my how do I love it). Your far from a new user, I know you're comfortable setting things up in CLI, so there's really no distro out there that wouldn't work well for you. Just comes down to "how lazy do you want to be"?

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Old 11-14-2019, 02:26 AM   #48
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3h is not much. Is it the same under Windows?
I gave you the worst scenario
As I said it can be largely better (even more because I confess I didn't process stict measurement so far).
I can't tell you about Windows, I don't really use it (I just make sure everythng is up to date).

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(*) I'm hoping to extend that with the sort of full hibernation (suspend to disk, not RAM) IRS offers.
Of course I could also set it up with Linux, but I figure that it's better to choose the option provided by the BIOS.
Hmm... interesting, I didn't know about IRS.
If I've well understood, it needs a special partition to work. What does it bring except a better resurrection time?
Why would it give you a better battery lifetime compared to classic full hibernation?
 
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I gave you the worst scenario
So that's about the same as on my machine: A few days of occasional usage, but only a few hours of intense usage (watching video over a WLAN connection).
Interesting that it would be the same for a (almost) new laptop.
Thanks for the data.

[uote]I didn't know about IRS.
If I've well understood, it needs a special partition to work. What does it bring except a better resurrection time?[/quote]Probably nothing, but I prefer to use what's available.
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Why would it give you a better battery lifetime compared to classic full hibernation?
It probably wouldn't. That's not why I brought it up; I was just interested if all (newer) intel-based thinkpads have that.
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True to the internet wisdom "If you cannot find something it can mean that you aren't searching properly, or it can mean that it doesn't exist", I'm beginning to suspect that "enhanced power management"(*) for laptops does not come preconfigured on any distro.

(*) however mobile phones "do it" maybe - putting processors, storage, network devices and essentially all sorts of hardware in some kind of deep sleep as soon as it isn't needed?

I know that software exists to achieve some of that.
 
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I was just interested if all (newer) intel-based thinkpads have that.
Good question and I would say NO because it seems that technology has been withdrown (https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/co...logy_on_t460s/).
As a matter of fact, I don't have this functionality on my 2 ThinkPad:
  • L380 Yoga (BIOS R0RET39W 1.22)
  • X390 (BIOS N2JET31W 1.09)
 
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:04 PM   #51
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About a month or two ago I bought a Chuwi Aerobook and I am very happy with its performance. After installing plain Ubuntu on it, everything works straight out of the box as it should. It has impressive battery life and I have yet to stumble on a major problem, Linux related or not. It is just a solid performer with the keyboard, the CPU power and the sturdiness the MacBook should have had a few years ago - I can attest to that being a previous MacBook owner.

Bought it from Amazon when it was for sale at an absolute bargain! Now, you can get it from Amazon for about $ 450 USD, still a great value for a great ultrabook.

Only thing I can recommend is to buy a USB-C charger with PD (Power Delivery) like this one from AliExpress so you can charge the laptop over the USB-C port. The supplied charger has a proprietary plug that is prone to failure - this is the single one problem I had and was quickly fixed with a pocket knife.
 
Old 12-16-2019, 07:55 PM   #52
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Personally I have a Dell 5755 1TB disk, 8GB ram, USB 3.0, WiFi, Bluetooth,
Ethernet, DVD drive, 17.3" display. Very quit...

I am running Windows 10, Oracle VirtualBox, WSL, gnucobol, Mingw gcc 64-bit, etc.
I know they are old but carefully shopping you can find one on eBay. I got mine
in 2016..

You can use the touch pad or Bluetooth Mouse.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspir...wAAOSwh~xd4BVr

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspir...0AAOSwveNd3ADm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DellInspiro...0AAOSwqwhd59ks

If I were to get another one I would get a new battery pack

https://www.amazon.com/NinjaBatt-Bat...l+5755+battery

Ken
 
Old 02-02-2020, 03:35 PM   #53
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Yes, matte works best outdoors, but is generally not as "vibrant" looking as a glossy LCD.

I've actually had several Chuwi's, the latest I've had for a year though (the 12.3). I love it. The touchpad doesn't have full touchpad functionality in linux (not recognized as a touchpad, which is endemic to all of the Chuwi's I've used) but single finger tap, double finger tap, and 2-finger scroll works, so it's sufficient for me to use them. (...)
Maybe you can help me. I have a Chuwi Aerobook running Ubuntu and it works just fine. However I have problems with the touchpad. It does not register a left click anymore. Only if I press hard it kinda works. It is a shame because I have had the Aerobook for just a few months now and I really like it (I posted about it above), but this problem makes it unusable.

I might still return it through Amazon, where I bought it but I would really like a "quick fix" to get on with the laptop.

I tried the Chuwi forum but, well, nothing came out of that.

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Old 02-02-2020, 04:10 PM   #54
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Maybe you can help me. I have a Chuwi Aerobook running Ubuntu and it works just fine. However I have problems with the touchpad. It does not register a left click anymore. Only if I press hard it kinda works. It is a shame because I have had the Aerobook for just a few months now and I really like it (I posted about it above), but this problem makes it unusable.

I might still return it through Amazon, where I bought it but I would really like a "quick fix" to get on with the laptop.

I tried the Chuwi forum but, well, nothing came out of that.
Is this with the virtual buttons (does the aerobook still have virtual buttons?) or with tapping?
 
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Hermani,

If this problem is real world and not a virtual machine it seems to
me to be a hardware issue. Contact your vendor to see if there is a
fix but, I don't think so.
 
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Old 02-03-2020, 03:36 PM   #56
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If this problem is real world and not a virtual machine it seems to
me to be a hardware issue.
Yes, it is a hardware issue. However I thought that Timothy might know how to easily fix the touchpad as he knows Chuwi hardware. And I am not afraid to open up hardware, and have even fixed my youngest son's Chinese tablet computer multiple times, even swapping out the digitizer, so I do know how to do basic repairs. But I could not find any leads about how to repair a track pad.

If I send the laptop back to Amazon, I think I won't be getting anything back soon and if I could clean it up it would save everyone a lot of hassle and keep this nice laptop out of the landfill it would otherwise probably end up - I don't see it shipped back to China for repairs, do you? However it might be the only option anyway..

<-- off topic -->
Looks like I might need the right to repair

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Old 02-03-2020, 04:06 PM   #57
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The only thing you might try is searching the internet (Google) and try and to
locate a manual for the Chuwi hardware. Perhaps there is a Chuwi users forum?
Start at

https://www.chuwi.com/support.html

Try here for manuals

https://forum.chuwi.com/t/topic/969

Also click on spy glass (upper) right corner and enter touchpad. Hope this is some help.

If this is useful give me a "Did you find this post useful? Yes".
 
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:12 PM   #58
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The only thing you might try is searching the internet (Google) and try and to
locate a manual for the Chuwi hardware. Perhaps there is a Chuwi users forum?
Very good tip. However, tried and searched that already.

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