NVIDIA driver problem in openSUSE, System performance has been slow but

ilali · 01-29-2012, 12:48 AM

i recently install nvidia driver in openSUSE 12.1. now i have some problems:
firefox scrolling now is slower than before, also when i start firefox, system freeze for about 5 seconds also when i try to exit system from screen saver it freezes for some seconds.
but in the other hand i tested a game that was slow before installing nvidia driver and i saw that after installing NVIDIA driver it is faster than before and run better. these results are in opposition.

i attached 2 files:

1- "nvidia-bug-report.sh" result
2- "man nv" result

also the result of "cat /etc/SuSE-release" is below:

Code:

# cat /etc/SuSE-release
openSUSE 12.1 (i586)
VERSION = 12.1
CODENAME = Asparagus

other useful information are following:

OS Information
OS: Linux 3.1.0-1.2-default i686
Current user: ali
System: openSUSE 12.1 (i586)
KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5"

Display Info
Vendor: nVidia Corporation
Model: GeForce 8400M GS
2D driver: nvidia
3D driver: NVIDIA 290.10

also i should add that i used "nomodset kernel parameter on boot", and "uninstalled nouveau driver" and change "NO_KMS_IN_INITRD" to yes.

please help me,
Thanks.

ukiuki · 01-29-2012, 01:11 AM

If you could post the xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log instead, that would be better info to understand the problem.

Regards

ilali · 01-29-2012, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiuki

If you could post the xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log instead, that would be better info to understand the problem.

Regards

Thank you for your attention, OK, i will post them soon, but where could i find them?

ilali · 01-29-2012, 12:45 PM

i have been attached xorg.0.log here:

ukiuki · 01-30-2012, 01:30 AM

There are few things to look at that maybe causing the problem, in the log we can see more than one driver available:

Code:

[    24.866] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0
[    24.866] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1
[    24.866] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 2
[    24.866] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[    24.866] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4

I dont think you need any other but nvidia one, the driver 0.
Looking bellow we can see the others been unloaded.

Code:

[    24.867] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
[    24.868] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nouveau
[    24.868] (II) UnloadModule: "nouveau"
[    24.868] (II) Unloading nouveau
[    24.868] (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0)

[    29.163] (II) UnloadModule: "nv"
[    29.163] (II) Unloading nv
[    29.163] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[    29.163] (II) Unloading fbdev
[    29.163] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw"
[    29.163] (II) Unloading fbdevhw
[    29.163] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[    29.163] (II) Unloading vesa

Maybe the extra drivers are the source of the problem, check which modules are in use with:

Code:

$ lsmod

By the way did you find the file xorg.conf ? It is usualy in /etc/X11.

Regards

ilali · 01-30-2012, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiuki

There are few things to look at that maybe causing the problem, in the log we can see more than one driver available:
By the way did you find the file xorg.conf ? It is usualy in /etc/X11.
Regards

i went to /etc/X11 and i don't find xorg.conf but i find some thing similar: xorg.cong.d that is a folder.
is xorg.conf.d suitable?
and you wrote that some drivers are unnecessary, how can i uninstall them? (i have been uninstalled nouveau driver using YAST).

Best Wishes.
MrAli

ukiuki · 01-30-2012, 01:56 PM

Suse uses RPM i cant remember how to use it cos its been so long since i last used it, but in the terminal to find out the commands you type:

Code:

$man rpm

or

Code:

$rpm --help

Regards

John VV · 01-30-2012, 04:58 PM

Hi ilali if it is firefox that is slow BUT a 3d game is FAST then the nvidia driver is not an issue

a few things first
HOW did you install the driver ?
there are a few ways
1)"one click"
2)"the easy way"
3)"the hard way"

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA

if you used the nvidia.run then you MUST manually rebulib the bootimage to remove the nouveau driver

also WHAT version of firefox ????
ff8 was a bit slow

What flash is installed ( and how was it installed ) ?
What java is installed ( there are TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS )
openJDK
Oracle's java ( was sun)
-- note--
the java issue now is similar to the "sun java" and the "Microsoft version of java" , of years past .

and last how much ram is on this computer ?
Firefox NEEDS a lot and suse12 uses even MORE

ilali · 01-31-2012, 02:45 AM

Hi John VV.
My laptop RAM is 2GB
i installed Nvidia driver with "one click" istallation
and tough the problem exist in Firefox (Firefox version is 9.1), but also it exist in other programs too, such as VLC player, Kwin (for example Kwin now shows a message that it disabled desktop effects because of low speed) and screensaver resuming (sometimes when i move mouse to resume from screensaver, the system freezes for a while). and also in firefox when i click on firefox icon to start it, the system freezes for some seconds.

all of these issues occurred after installing NVIDIA driver.

but as i said before, one game that was slow before installing nvidia driver, after installing that performed better.

flash version is 11 i think (i cannot check it right now).

i hope this information be helpful for getting solution.

Thanks

ilali · 02-01-2012, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiuki

Maybe the extra drivers are the source of the problem, check which modules are in use with:

Code:

$ lsmod

the result of "$ lsmod" is:

Code:

:~> lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
nls_utf8               12493  0 
loop                   23079  0 
af_packet              26605  2 
ip6t_LOG               12847  5 
xt_tcpudp              12788  2 
xt_pkttype             12456  3 
ipt_LOG                12880  5 
xt_limit               12541  10 
ip6t_REJECT            12809  3 
nf_conntrack_ipv6      13936  3 
nf_defrag_ipv6         18017  1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
ip6table_raw           12603  1 
xt_NOTRACK             12456  4 
ipt_REJECT             12512  3 
iptable_raw            12598  1 
iptable_filter         12706  1 
ip6table_mangle        12652  0 
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns    12585  0 
nf_conntrack_broadcast    12541  1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns
nf_conntrack_ipv4      14319  3 
nf_defrag_ipv4         12649  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
ip_tables              18302  2 iptable_raw,iptable_filter
xt_conntrack           12664  6 
nf_conntrack           79552  6 nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_NOTRACK,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_conntrack
ip6table_filter        12711  1 
ip6_tables             18432  4 ip6t_LOG,ip6table_raw,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_filter
x_tables               26199  16 ip6t_LOG,xt_tcpudp,xt_pkttype,ipt_LOG,xt_limit,ip6t_REJECT,ip6table_raw,xt_NOTRACK,ipt_REJECT,iptable_raw,iptable_filter,ip6table_mangle,ip_tables,xt_conntrack,ip6table_filter,ip6_tables
cpufreq_conservative    13525  0 
cpufreq_userspace      12973  0 
cpufreq_powersave      12554  0 
acpi_cpufreq           14206  1 
mperf                  12603  1 acpi_cpufreq
microcode              22828  0 
fuse                   81337  3 
arc4                   12473  2 
snd_hda_codec_conexant    60994  1 
iwl3945                81303  0 
iwl_legacy             75230  1 iwl3945
mac80211              298487  2 iwl3945,iwl_legacy
firewire_ohci          35854  0 
hdj_mod               142993  0 
snd_hda_intel          32497  2 
sdhci_pci              13864  0 
sdhci                  32185  1 sdhci_pci
r592                   17808  0 
sr_mod                 22048  0 
uvcvideo               71364  0 
snd_rawmidi            29520  1 hdj_mod
iTCO_wdt               17575  0 
r852                   17901  0 
sm_common              16737  1 r852
snd_hda_codec         105718  2 snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel
nand                   53802  2 r852,sm_common
nand_ids                8547  1 nand
nand_bch               13003  1 nand
bch                    21789  1 nand_bch
nand_ecc               13070  1 nand
cfg80211              183466  3 iwl3945,iwl_legacy,mac80211
hid_a4tech             12590  0 
firewire_core          61002  1 firewire_ohci
hp_wmi                 13652  0 
nvidia              10791360  41 
snd_seq_device         14172  1 snd_rawmidi
sparse_keymap          13658  1 hp_wmi
usbhid                 51576  0 
videodev               94691  1 uvcvideo
hid                    81463  2 hid_a4tech,usbhid
sg                     35770  0 
cdrom                  46732  1 sr_mod
crc_itu_t              12627  1 firewire_core
joydev                 17393  0 
mmc_core               98891  1 sdhci
pcspkr                 12614  0 
memstick               16010  1 r592
mtd                    39948  2 sm_common,nand
serio_raw              12990  0 
i2c_i801               17701  0 
iTCO_vendor_support    13502  1 iTCO_wdt
rfkill                 24962  2 cfg80211,hp_wmi
snd_hwdep              13276  1 snd_hda_codec
battery                18200  0 
snd_pcm                97316  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
sky2                   53507  0 
snd_timer              28930  1 snd_pcm
snd                    69952  13 snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel,hdj_mod,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore              14635  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         14108  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
ac                     12895  0 
wmi                    18744  1 hp_wmi
button                 13661  0 
video                  19101  0 
i2c_core               34010  3 nvidia,videodev,i2c_i801
autofs4                37842  2 
uhci_hcd               36055  0 
rtc_cmos               18167  0 
thermal                18377  0 
ehci_hcd               60362  0 
processor              43803  3 acpi_cpufreq
thermal_sys            20200  3 video,thermal,processor
hwmon                  12936  1 thermal_sys
usbcore               190567  6 hdj_mod,uvcvideo,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
ata_generic            12809  0 
ata_piix               30541  0 
ahci                   25620  4 
libahci                30095  1 ahci
libata                205032  4 ata_generic,ata_piix,ahci,libahci

do you recognize any problem?

John VV · 02-01-2012, 10:04 PM

Les see
1) laptop
2) only 2 gig ram
3) SUSE is Bloatware ( yes the kitchen sink was included and for good measure your neighbors kitchen sink also )

with 2 gig ( the BARE MIN. ) everything WILL be a bit slow

on laptops the system ram & cpu is used instead of the 3d card like on a desktop
a "built in chip" will always be a bit slow

I suggest NOT using KDE or Gnome if you have only 2 gig of ram

install xfce or build e17

now seeing as suse DID through in both kitchen sinks i am betting that lxde and / or xfce IS already installed
from the boot screen after you click on your name BUT BEFORE you type in the password
on the bottom is a selection menu
use one of the lighter weight desktops

ukiuki · 02-02-2012, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV

Les see
1) laptop
2) only 2 gig ram
3) SUSE is Bloatware ( yes the kitchen sink was included and for good measure your neighbors kitchen sink also )

with 2 gig ( the BARE MIN. ) everything WILL be a bit slow

on laptops the system ram & cpu is used instead of the 3d card like on a desktop
a "built in chip" will always be a bit slow

I suggest NOT using KDE or Gnome if you have only 2 gig of ram

install xfce or build e17

now seeing as suse DID through in both kitchen sinks i am betting that lxde and / or xfce IS already installed
from the boot screen after you click on your name BUT BEFORE you type in the password
on the bottom is a selection menu
use one of the lighter weight desktops

Quote:

install xfce or build e17

I would go further with that if you really want things to run real fast it is even better to use an Window Manager instead of an Desktop Manager(KDE, Gnome, Lxde, Xfce, etc), there are plenty out there, just to mention some: Blackbox, Fluxbox, Wmii, Dwm, Flwm, Window Maker, etc etc. I have an very old machine with only 96Mb RAM and 250MHz processor believe or not it runs very fast for its age im using Blackbox and very custom Debian install. Your machine is way faster than that and with the right setup and tweaking it can fly. Dig it !!

Regards

ilali · 02-02-2012, 01:03 PM

thank you for your attention but i had used same machin with nouveau!
i mean nvidia driver is slower than nouveau driver in same machin. i compare my machin with itself.
i know if i use a lighter DM or WM my machin will become faster but it is not the solution, it is earasing the question! in fact in such a situation also the problem exist but because of ligtness of WM or DM it does not show itself.

i think there is a problem with the driver or my system and i want to solve that.

ukiuki · 02-03-2012, 01:55 AM

Did you remove those drivers not in use? It maybe the source of the problem. Have you look at the processes and memory and processor usage? It does also can tell you what is causing the "slow motion". Yet the nvidia driver you have instalned may not be the best driver for that hardware. Some old video cards can't handle well newer DEs and all its eye candy the hardware get really overloaded and things work really slow.

Regards

ilali · 02-05-2012, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiuki

Did you remove those drivers not in use? It maybe the source of the problem. Have you look at the processes and memory and processor usage? It does also can tell you what is causing the "slow motion". Yet the nvidia driver you have instalned may not be the best driver for that hardware. Some old video cards can't handle well newer DEs and all its eye candy the hardware get really overloaded and things work really slow.

i searched for them in my system and i did not find any thing. i think they are not installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiuki

Yet the nvidia driver you have instalned may not be the best driver for that hardware. Some old video cards can't handle well newer DEs and all its eye candy the hardware get really overloaded and things work really slow.

where can i find older versions of driver? (except nvidia website because nvidia has been sanctioned Iranian users!)