Asus M3N-HT Deluxe AMD Nvidia 780a Motherboard

mdjenkins · 05-02-2008, 07:50 PM

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I am still in the green than in the blue with the chosen components.

Support for the B3's on the Gigabyte board you're looking at still comes out sketchy, but as long as you run stock you should be fine.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3279&p=3

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SLI or Crossfire is for bragging rights. I prefer one video card for all the graphics rendering. That is why I selected the AMD 780G. I can use it until the GT200 or whatever name nVidia will be calling its next generation video card. Again this is only if I get the components.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item=860&num=3
Granted these benches are old, yet the difference between sli on and sli off still resulted in near double performance. I would agree It's only good for bragging rights if you don't put it to use, and from what it sounds like you're building, you wouldn't put it to use.

I guess it's just a good lesson that the hardware to fit one solution isn't going to be the hardware that fits every solution.

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The lspci utility is known to tell a lie. I prefer to use lshw. Both the ECS and the ASUS board uses the same Ethernet controller, but they are connected differently (I think). The ECS board probably connects the Ethernet controller directly to the PCIe bus while the ASUS probably hook up the Ethernet controller to the PHY link. It is hard to say with out the documentation.

thanks for the tip on lshw I like it. Even if it tells me that I have an ethernet chip other than the one you are telling me I have.

Code:

*-network
          description: Ethernet interface
          product: nVidia Corporation
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: a
          bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
          logical name: eth0
          version: a2
          serial: 00:1f:c6:4a:dd:65
          size: 100MB/s
          capacity: 1GB/s
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
          configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.61 duplex=full ip=192.168.2.101 latency=0 link=yes maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 module=forcedeth multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s

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BTW, Sorry sniff that we went off topic.

QFT

Electro · 05-02-2008, 10:23 PM

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QFT

huh, Quantum Field Theory.

mdjenkins · 05-02-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Electro

huh, Quantum Field Theory.

Quoted for Truth

sniff · 05-06-2008, 12:47 PM

Hello,
Nice to see someone has had some success with the board, mine is currently back and the shop because even with the 0702 BIOS it wouldn't work with either a Phenom 9600 or a 9850. They think that they identified a problem with the 9850, and have shipped the board back to me with a new CPU. So I will get it all back on Thursday. I think the problem is more likely to be with the board rather than the CPU, fingers crossed they tested it properly. If they tried it with my CPU and then a AMD x2 64, then they will most likely missed the problem because it worked for me with a 6000+.

Oh well we will see...

mdjenkins · 05-10-2008, 12:16 PM

I recently updated my BIOS to 0702 and dropped in a 9850.
So far the only trouble I've had is when booting the board tries to power 3-4 times before successfully powering during a cold boot. I may go back and see what I can figure out, but for now I'm up and more interested in seeing if I can get KDE 4 compiled with gcc 4.3 on an x86_64 host

sniff · 05-10-2008, 03:32 PM

So I got a replacement 9850+, now things are working. I have got the board up and running with a 8800GT for the graphics, and a PCI 1Gb Ethernet card for the internet. So things are looking good. I have tried the Opensuse 11.0 beta2 CD which correctly detects the Ethernet, I think the on board Ethernet requires a 2.6.25 kernel

I had exactly the same problem with the 0702 bios, the funny restarting power problem. I have gone back to 0603 and it seems stable. I also had problems with the graphics with 0703, it became corrupt. I think that it will take something not working force me to move from 0603.

Now all I need to do is figure out why NFS doesn't work.

mdjenkins · 05-11-2008, 01:30 AM

I don't think you need 2.6.25 to support the on board ethernet, the forcedeth driver has been mainline in the kernel back to 2.6.5. All you should need to do is:

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modprobe forcedeth

http://www.hailfinger.org/carldani/l...hes/forcedeth/

It's good to hear that the 9850 works on the 0603 BIOS. I didn't bother trying to post it with the 9850 on 0603 due to the information on Asus' site stating that the 9850 was first supported with the 0702

sniff · 05-11-2008, 03:51 AM

Thats what I thought, but I'm not able to configure the card with yast, it says the kernel device is not present, after I have modprobe forcedeth.

mdjenkins · 05-12-2008, 08:03 AM

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This is the NVIDIA NForce 4 integrated NIC. It is NOT detected by hot plug. makes use of the FORCEDETH driver. There is a bug in bios that stops the driver loading. You need to add a line into /etc/modprobe.conf "options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" then in yast specify an external ethernet card

http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_%28Wired%29
Hope this helps

sb159 · 05-30-2008, 09:16 AM

hi guys...

bios rev 0802 for the "M3N-HT Deluxe" was released...
i can now use all mobo-features without any problems,...
maybe your 1066-RAMS must be set manually (Timings, Frequency)... if you have some

my sys:

phenom 9850 BE
M3N-HT Deluxe
Corsair Dominator TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF G ---> 2x2GB DDR2 1066
HIS Radeon 2600xt ^^ 512GDDR3, 128 bit memorywidth

well everything works fine! till now... but i'm using winXp sp2...
if there are probs about getting ram working (what is no wonder, if you know this board, esp. it's BIOS revs), i probably can help u... just mail...

Direct link to BIOS revision 0802 for M3N-HT Deluxe (linked to asus main site; global seedserver):

h.tt.p://dlsvr01.asus.c.om/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M3N-HT_DELUXE/0804.zip

Sometimes the forum was very helpful and in addition there are was often someone with same system (as own):

h.tt.p://vip.asus.c.om/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=M3N-HT+DELUXE&SLanguage=en-us

well,have fun
*i added 3points to every link, because the forum is restricting me to post links in my first message^^

gr33tz sb159

sniff · 05-31-2008, 03:04 PM

901 is out now, says it includes a fix for the cold booting problem. I am going to try it.

sniff · 06-17-2008, 04:57 PM

I'm still having sound issues with this board, its all jerky and corrupt. Anyone else had problems with sound?

mdjenkins · 06-18-2008, 01:31 AM

I'm still getting excellent sound. Here's the sound portion of my .config

Code:

$ uname -a
Linux sparky 2.6.25-gentoo-r4 #9 SMP Thu May 29 18:44:10 MDT 2008 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9850 Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Code:

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=m

#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
# CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER is not set
CONFIG_SND_DYNAMIC_MINORS=y
CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y
CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PROCFS=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

#
# Generic devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set

#
# PCI devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_AD1889 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS300 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CA0106 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_OXYGEN is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS4281 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS5530 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DARLA20 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_GINA20 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_LAYLA20 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DARLA24 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_GINA24 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_LAYLA24 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MONA is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIA is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ECHO3G is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INDIGO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INDIGOIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INDIGODJ is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ATIHDMI=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=y
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSPM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HIFIER is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_PCXHR is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RIPTIDE is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VIRTUOSO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set

#
# USB devices
#
# CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_SND_USB_USX2Y is not set
# CONFIG_SND_USB_CAIAQ is not set

#
# System on Chip audio support
#
# CONFIG_SND_SOC is not set

#
# SoC Audio support for SuperH
#

#
# ALSA SoC audio for Freescale SOCs
#

#
# Open Sound System
#
CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set
CONFIG_HID_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_HID=y
# CONFIG_HID_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_HIDRAW=y

rawdmon · 06-19-2008, 06:56 AM

I recently purchased a M3N-HT motherboard along with an AMD Phenom x4 9850+ Black Edition.

I had several roadblocks which I ran in to while getting the system setup and getting Linux (Kubuntu) installed on it. Now, Kubuntu is my personal preference for my desktop machines since it is quick and easy to setup. I use Gentoo on my servers, you can pretty much use any Linux distro that you want, but I'll simply be covering the exact steps that I took with Kubuntu.

First off, the BIOS issues. When I finally got the machine all setup and ready to go I powered it on and was shocked to see that it was rapidly powering on and off, and cycling. I killed the power thinking that perhaps it was a problem with the power supply. I had just bought the power supply brand new, and it's a 1000watt power supply, so it's not like the board wasn't getting enough power. I researched the issue online and found several people were having similar issues with the same motherboard/processor combo. I finally tracked down what the problem was. It turns out that the M3N-HT ships with an older version of the BIOS which does not play well with some Phenom processors, especially the 9850+ BE. I downloaded the latest BIOS update (0901) off of Asus' site, extracted the 0901.ZIP file and burned the 0901.BIN file to a CD. To get the system to boot I had to reset the CMOS using the reset jumper located just next to the battery. The system would only boot normally if I reset this jumper. Once the system was up and stable I went in to the BIOS and went to the tools section. I fired up the EZFlash 2 utility and inserted the CD. I selected to flash the BIOS and away it went (while I held my breath I might add). The BIOS flash completed successfully and the system rebooted. After the BIOS update everything worked perfectly.

Ok, so now I had a working system and obviously wanted to take advantage of that by installing an OS on it. I have 2 500GB Western Digital SATA drives in the machine. I threw in my Kubuntu CD and loaded it up. I started the installation and went through the steps. When it came time for the installer to detect the drives I was greeted with a blank window where the drives would normally be displayed after being detected. Linux apparently prefers AHCI to IDE for SATA handling, so I went in to the BIOS and changed the value from IDE to AHCI. I then saved the settings and rebooted the system. I ran the installer again but, yet again, it did not detect my drives. I booted the Kubuntu CD again, I highlighted the install option on the Kubuntu boot screen and then hit F6 which provided me with the boot line at the bottom. I added pci=nomsi at the end of the line and hit enter. The Kubuntu installer came up and I went through the steps again. It finally detected my drives and I was able to successfully install Kubuntu. From that point on everything went very smoothly and I was able to boot from my primary SATA drive with no issues.

Almost everything worked fine in linux (even the two onboard network cards). The only thing that I've yet to get working properly is the sound. I configured Alsa and do have sound coming out of the speakers but it is fuzzy (static) and heavily distorted. To describe the distortion, if I were to play back the word "well" in a video it would come out as "well..ell..ell..ell..ell......" along with static. I hear static intermittently even when no audio is playing at all. I tried playing around with alsamixer, adjusting various values and muting and unmuting channels but nothing has worked so far. I'm probably just going to go pick up a cheap SoundBlaster Audigy for $30 and pop it in to one of the PCI slots then disable the onboard. I'm quite dissapointed by the quality of the audio in Linux, more so because the onboard "ExpressGate" software is based on Linux and the exact same issues occur when I boot in to ExpressGate and play a YouTube video. Either my motherboard is defective or Asus totally struck out on this one. Can anyone with this board please boot in to ExpressGate and attempt playing a YouTube video? I would like to know if you experience the same issues. I've been searching around online and found that many people are.

Thanks, and hope this helps some people to get up and going in linux with this board.

Cheers,
Ryan

rawdmon · 06-19-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sniff

I'm still having sound issues with this board, its all jerky and corrupt. Anyone else had problems with sound?

Nice to see that I'm not the only one. It's doing it in ExpressGate too, so it looks like some sort of Linux drivers issue. It apparently works fine in Windows, which is great, if you're a Windows user that is. Can anyone else confirm this issue?