So I started reading the mailing list.
The story starts with ESR actually joining the mailing list after 20 years!
A discussion about a topic develops.
From the start I notice that the people on the list have an established way of discussing things. It all sounds a little bureaucratic and anemic, but peaceful and paced, carefully phrased. ESR is not so careful. I find particularly jarring how, almost right from the start, he assumes a would-be authoritative tone in a community that has developed ways of discussing things for 20 years, without him, and - while not being insulting per se - a propensity for strong language.
I’d say it starts getting a little hairy around
here (last paragraph):
Quote:
With whatever moral authority I still have here, I say to all
advocates of soi-disant “ethical” licensing not just “No” but “To hell
with you and the horse you rode in on.”
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Then this:
Quote:
Quote:
somebody else wrote:
We need a set of options, licensing
or otherwise, that uphold the OSD and FSD and allow them to make some
different on the other issues in the world. I’m trying to explore the
licensing topic here.
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No, we don’t.
I am not fooled. You are mounting an ideological attack on our core
principles of liberty and nondiscrimination. You will not succeed
while I retain any ability to oppose this.
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(I'm not commenting on what is being discussed, only on the How)
Always feel free to click through to others' reactions - so far I have found nothing but politeness and ESR starts to look more and more like the proverbial elephant in a china shop.
Mark how ESR not only claims power over others but also, after having stayed out of it for 20 years, talks about “
our core principles” that
he needs to defend...
No wonder people are starting to get miffed now!
But even so, the reactions I’m reading are very restrained.
There's a general request for people to restrain their language - not their opinions! - and keep their discussions civil.
Unfortunately, ESR does not stop there. It gets worse - this message was not accepted to the list, but another member
quoted it:
Quote:
toxic loonytoon ... political ratfucking ... vulgar Marxism
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I just picked out the tasty bits, but in its entirety this is an all-too-familiar rage-rant about political correctness in the FOSS community gone wrong.
And that’s it, I cannot find anymore posts by ESR, apparently that’s when some people decided to kick him out.
Kicked him out of one of many OSI mailing lists, not out of the OSI itself, as the thread title might suggest.