Smallest CentOS

vzxen · 06-17-2011, 03:45 AM

Hi,

I want to use CentOS 5.6 on a Server with very less space.
When I install the minimum OS, it takes nearly 900 MB space.
Is it possible to REDUCE it MORE ?
I want it to take no more than 700 MB.

acid_kewpie · 06-17-2011, 04:24 AM

just don't install and package groups, the base layout is less. Untick everything in the installer if that's how you're installing it. Dropping X will save plenty of space.

vzxen · 06-17-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acid_kewpie

just don't install and package groups, the base layout is less. Untick everything in the installer if that's how you're installing it. Dropping X will save plenty of space.

Hi,

Done that and its still 900 MB.
I also removed SElinux as it wasnt useful to me.
What else can I remove.

unSpawn · 06-17-2011, 02:54 PM

Most members don't have access to your server or ESP so why not start by listing what packages you installed and what purpose the machine serves?..

szboardstretcher · 06-17-2011, 03:11 PM

The base install of Scientific Linux 6 is small in comparison to Centos 5.6... boots and shuts down faster. This might be of interest to you.

snowday · 06-17-2011, 03:12 PM

Why the 700mb limit? Storage is very cheap. A 1TB hard drive costs well under US$100.

szboardstretcher · 06-17-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpine

Why the 700mb limit? Storage is very cheap. A 1TB hard drive costs well under US$100.

Wondered the same thing.

Are you installing this in a RamDrive, Flash or something?

acid_kewpie · 06-17-2011, 03:53 PM

There are plenty of reasons. lots and lots and lots. It is, for example, a hell of a lot quicker to build a 400mb server than a 2gb server with kickstart...

merely saying a 1TB drive is available is a fair bit narrow minded. Is that enterprise suitable? What IO stats will it provide? What about RAID? etc. etc. etc.

snowday · 06-17-2011, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acid_kewpie

There are plenty of reasons. lots and lots and lots. It is, for example, a hell of a lot quicker to build a 400mb server than a 2gb server with kickstart...

merely saying a 1TB drive is available is a fair bit narrow minded. Is that enterprise suitable? What IO stats will it provide? What about RAID? etc. etc. etc.

If there are "lots and lots and lots" of reasons, I don't see them in the OP. I'm sticking to my "upgrade your storage if you only have 700mb free" suggestion unless vzxen provides more information.

acid_kewpie · 06-17-2011, 04:30 PM

No, that's not how things work. They asked a question, for which there is a VERY valid answer... why does it need to go any further than that???

snowday · 06-17-2011, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acid_kewpie

No, that's not how things work. They asked a question, for which there is a VERY valid answer... why does it need to go any further than that???

I asked "why 700mb?" because I was curious. I have an inquisitive nature and I don't think it was a rude question.

vzxen · 06-18-2011, 01:37 AM

Hi,

Here is the RPMS list :

Code:

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yum-fastestmirror-1.1.16-14.el5.centos.1

BTW, its not about Storage. This OS will be redistributed which will cost us TOO Much Bandwidth charges.
Also why to have packages which will not be used at all ?
We just want to run a simple LAMP Box and nothing else.

acid_kewpie · 06-18-2011, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vzxen

Hi,

BTW, its not about Storage. This OS will be redistributed which will cost us TOO Much Bandwidth charges.
Also why to have packages which will not be used at all ?
We just want to run a simple LAMP Box and nothing else.

No, I think you'll find you've already been told your hard drive is too small. ;-)

I don't understand an environment where you'll be charged like this. If you're pushing these images over a 3rd party wan, then is there no chance of prestaging the install media in the remote location anyway? Are you kickstarting then? If so just remove any installation groups, e.g. Base, from the %packages section.

There is a lot of logic in refusing to be drawn into a "mini distro" discussion though, it's an enterprise server, that should have no significant bearing on the size of it on the disk. If you need small then you're generally outside of the standard installation side of things so would be customizing your own images not using the installers in the first place. It's attractive to want small but is generally the wrong way to look at it. People have reasons though...

vzxen · 06-18-2011, 06:10 AM

Hi,

Ok I will first try and explain my motive.
I want to redistribute a LAMP BOX of CentOS.
This will have 300 Flavours i.e. 300 types of different software with a COMMON BASE of CENTOS.
Now I am trying to REDUCE the COMMON BASE of CENTOS to AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE so that distribution is easy.
I will have to pay for all the space and all the Bandwidth for 10000s of downloads and also maintain the OLD Flavours I made first. So its a LOT of SPACE and Bandwidth required and things could get more complicated if I have to maintain 1000 Flavours or so.

Thinking from the users point of view, the software will be a LAMP box and it neednt have the extra things they require. Plus they can download faster as well.
So any help will be appreciated to remove commonly unused RPMs.

snowday · 06-18-2011, 09:13 AM

Thanks for telling us more about the project, and good luck!