That is why we have sports and videogames for example. to chill out!

@enorbet The Windows softwares I'm talking about aren't really programs I use a lot, but for which there are no good Linux alternatives. For example that Samsung Odin, which is a leaked firmware update tool of Samsung, but still the most reliable way to rot a Samsung device. I tried an emulator for Sega's AM2; no Linux builds available. The utility programs for cleaning the spray heads and such of my printer; only Windows. And eventually I would like to play some games.
Also the instability aren't things that happen a lot. Sound stops working for no obvious reason. Screen mode switch failed. GTK is in a horrible state. (Isn't it always?) Waking from stand-by freezes computer. Program stops responding. Program crashes. Write to USB stick fails silently. When memory paging occurs the computer becomes so unresponsive most programs give up. Except for the last one (I use Debian mostly), all these problems very occassionally happen on Windows (7) too, but if I had to quantify it, I'd say once per year, versus four times a year for Linux.

@John VV Thanks for the links. That is the best review I've read yet. Also comprehensive text on data mining.

@Jeff-Royer As far as I know, only Ubuntu (and derivatives?) mines data. Maybe RedHat too, since it's so enterprisey.

Now Windows 10 looks like crud, and my prejudice, that it must be crud, seems to be confirmed by all those little glitches that pop-up everywhere. Actually I would say they seem to adopt what makes Linux bad: poorly tested code is pushed in de facto beta release. *starts sweating profusely* That DirectX 12, though...

Windows 10 theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeAWESP7THs

@ Weapon S I'm still having a hard time differentiating your experiences. Although Linux has made great gains, Windows does enjoy a 90++ market share on the desktop so there are applications that simply don't exist for Linux and are windows-only. At least for this conversation I am unconcerned with those. I simply want to know about native Linux apps that people find unstable for this discussion. To be clear I am not trying to disprove your experiences. I just want to understand and compare.

1) Sound - Because sound is a part of many kinds of apps (eg: Flash, Java, LUA, etc ) it is a nebulous problem but there can be no denying that at the very least the lack of standardization of sound server actions has Windows a winner on this score but that said it is also a matter of (difficult and painstaking) setup since, once setup, I just don't have sound ever cutout for no reason. The only problems I ever encounter are with removable devices like a headset or webcam that are only occasionally connected.

2) Screen mode switch? and 3) waking from standby - are these both laptop only issues?

4) Do you really have native Linux apps stop responding? if so, is it random (can happen on any app) or limited to certain apps or "families" of apps ie: any commonality ?

5) I have never had a write to USB stick fail whether done from CLI or GUI. Can you expand? Eg: Is it a Copy/Paste function, say from a File Manager?

6) Paging - I assume you mean when ram resources are exhausted and the system must use hard drive paging (virtual memory) the system become exceedingly slow. This seems a 2 part problem since first is the system equally unresponsive under windows as linux? Second, in my experience Linux is vastly superior in both memory management and scheduling and therefore resorts to paging far less than Windows and behaves better when finally in that condition. Is this not your experience as well?

In addition to my own understanding, I strongly suspect that once fully explored and understood, you could greatly improve your Linux performance so I hope this isn't boring to you as we both could benefit..

Edit: I jut realized that it looks like you are saying that Linux exhausts resources 4 times as often a Windows. This should not occur in a properly setup Linux OpSys. This alone might hint at the possibility of considerable improvement. In that vein could you please state the brand and model of your PC and the kernel version you use?

I was listening to the linux Action Show and windows 10 seems to want to override your internet experience by forcing the EDGE web browser on you. And even if you set firefox or chrome as your default web browser, it can default back to the EDGE web browser on windows updates.

The folks at LAS says EDGE is not a fully functional web browser yet as to firefox and chrome.

I have been said that windows 10 will be completely free for everyone. This, because MS is so rich. Is it really possible?

Nothing is free, no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to Microsoft. I myself just lost a battle and was forced to install windows on my parent's computer all because of some bullshit site requiring flash. So much for the flash alternatives. Still it is Win7 so it is acceptable. I plan to use that as long as possible, since there hasn't been any talk of pulling support for Win7 by Microsoft. Even if it does happen, I will then be kicking and screaming before I go to Win8.1, since I plan to avoid 10 as much as possible.

I wouldn't have to worry about this if it were for a simple fucking plugin (thanks adobe), but since my parents are inept about computers and are dead set in accessing a stupid ass site (game site) that won't at least run java, what can I really do? Trivial and fucking stupid I know, but there it is.

what about flash non free ?? https://packages.debian.org/search?k...plugin-nonfree

You should show them Openoffice.org, ... and cool desktop.

The problem is that audio s** on Linux with pulseaudio.

Tried that plugin, but the website sees through it and insists on flash18.. Office is not an issue though. As I stated in other many threads, about my hatred of BOTH Java and Flash, at least Java is the lesser of two evils and is still available in all platforms. I can't wait for HTML5 to be adopted more. Youtube uses HTML5, so I can pretty much remove flash from my own system, I don't need it since the HTML5 video player, and no more making my i7 system crawl. Hell I don't even use facebook, yet didn't even one of the site devs said that facebook should just dump flash? Yea my parents also use facebook.

I like the idea of a cross platform applications. Not sure how well that will turn out. After all Java claimed write once, run everywhere and that every application will be soon running on Java.

I'd only run 10 on a tablet. I need stuff on W7 still that won't run on 10.

I hear there are still bugs.

Liked Cortana on the phone.

Those who must or want to upgrade to 10 go right ahead, but as a general rule (more of a personal guideline I guess) I would wait until SP1 if possible. Just sayin'.

the biggest evils are Android (google), Microsoft and Apple, that oblige you to get you always putting $$ into the wheel. You cannot use xls, then, you need xlsx, then,... .suddenly they change again something and you need to buy a new pc,...

Every one or two years you can re-buy a new machine and office suites.

Java and Flash : it is not better either , what about silverlight?

Thats just even worse. I don't know of any binaries of silverlight from Microsoft for linux and I have never seen an actual site to require it, so the point is moot.. Hell even microsoft.com doesn't say anything about me not running a browser with silverlight.

Going back to my original statement, Java is still the lesser of two evils, and so far Google seems to have backed off on some things, such as requiring Google+ for everything and even Google is at least against flash, so its one of those 'the enemy of my enemy, is my friend' sort of things I guess.

I thik to say it is "completely free for everyone" is an exaggeration. It is free to upgrade from any version of Windows which is deemed compatible (going back to Vista, I think) for the life of the machine it is installed upon. Given the number of people who change their computers every couple of years they will still be getting new licences out there.
Though I suspect the money is to be made from Office subscriptions and app store purchases.
Remember that OEMs practically got Windows for free at times and M$ still made money.

That's indeed the hell, for everything, you wanna do you need a Google Account login/password or Facebook or Outlook,...
Sometime, on them, you must need a phone number,.... eventually adress, ...

I am sorry but since they might have monopole, this is not legal. They force users.
They can argue, you have however the choice.