Will aviation industry recover?

hazel · 10-29-2020, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by puppymagic

Johnson would have touched the magazines for example, at the hair salon.

Johnson would have touched various parts of tables, utencils, and chairs and even the gate of the sport bar.

Johnson would have looked healthy, he might even be strong enough to withstand the coronavirus entering his body, but he basically used his hands to transmit the coronavirus diseases.

No, it doesn't work like that. You need to have the virus replicating strongly inside your body to be able to spread it around simply by touch. That means a big internal breeding colony, involving many infected "brood cells". But your T-cell immunity would kill those off, and probably B-antibodies would kill any remaining free virus in your blood.

ntubski · 10-29-2020, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smallpond

If the vaccine has side effects, which all vaccines do, then the Prisoners' Dilemma comes into play which is the game the anti-vax crowd prefers. It's better not to take the vaccine as long as everybody else does.

That's only true if the expected badness of the vaccine (probability of bad side effects from vaccine * "badness" of those effects) is greater than the expected badness of a covid infection (probability of covid infection * badness of covid infection). It's true that the probability of covid infection goes down if everyone else takes it, but the degree to which the probability goes depends on its effectiveness. So paradoxically, if the vaccine is less effective, it's (relatively) better for you to take it.

DamienGY · 11-20-2020, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbell

Historically, the first responsibility of a business has been to the health and well-being of the business. The notion that it is right to squeeze a business into non-existence for the benefit of stockholders--oh, don't get me started.

This is the harsh truth of life. Airline lawyers are shedding tears in public talking about the losses they are suffering. However, the reality is that people with big money and politicians both flew and continue to fly using private business jets. The airlines received help from the state and simply laid off most of their employees. Who was in the red? And we were left in the red, we can't even get a refund when flights are canceled now (very often).

business_kid · 11-25-2020, 01:09 PM

To get vaguely back on topic and off tangents…

Yes, aviation will survive in some form, because it's a pre-requisite for business expansion. Governments in each country will buy/bale out & rescue airlines enough to keep businesses open. Then they tell us howmuch we're going to pay. There will be casualties, but "necessary" airlines will survive.

business_kid · 11-26-2020, 04:54 AM

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Which business expansion do you mean?

Some businesses. Governments need their taxes to pay their budgets.

In tourism, it's largely small businesses. So some businesses will have to stay. In Ireland, we have a lot of Big Pharma, Big Tech & tourism keeping the wheels turning. So we're not actually that bad. Spain & Italy need tourism real bad. Every country will keep what they need.

jamison20000e · 11-26-2020, 03:10 PM

From my perspective,

getting only 2 weeks vacation after many years served is a fat joke!

I'd rather quit a job to travel at my leisure...

not mentioning the pollution^ from rabbits over f~!ng!

puppymagic · 03-26-2021, 02:52 PM

nevermind...