Twitter Monetization
 

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
·
38m
"Apply to offer your followers subscriptions of any material, from longform text to hours long video!

Just tap on “Monetization” in settings."
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1646564065853194241

and:

"For the next 12 months, Twitter will keep none of the money.

You will receive whatever money we receive, so that’s 70% for subscriptions on iOS & Android (they charge 30%) and ~92% on web (could be better, depending on payment processor).

After first year, iOS & Android fees drop to 15% and we will add a small amount on top of that, depending on volume.

We will also help promote your work. Our goal is to maximize creator prosperity.

At any point, you can leave our platform and take your work with you. Easy in, easy out.
12:20 PM · Apr 13, 2023"

What I get from this is that Musk is flailing.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/0...itter-relevant

Perhaps but my understanding is that Musk is a fighter for his companies. I've read that after two successive rocket explosions on the pad he bet every dollar he had and could borrow on the next launch - success. When Tesla 3 was having production problems he slept at the factories for months at a time - success. Twitter may turn out to be a colossal failure but I'm not betting against him. Your link is interesting reading but not convincing, imo.


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
·
1h
"Creators in Japan, Canada, Australia and New Zealand can now enable subscriptions on this platform.

Our goal is to maximize the prosperity of creators!" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647339015132299264

Speaking of Twitter - What's it worth today? $5,000,000?

Whoever offered $44,000,000 for it seems to have made a monumental error. His behaviour as the "chief twit" has amply justified that title, driven away advertisers, made it's workforce an endangered species, and ruined what doubtful reputation he may have had. To my mind, it's a bit like an alcoholic buying a distillery. Twitter brings out the worst in Musk.

^^^^Time will tell.

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
"Content creators can now enable subscriptions to their text, pics & video worldwide on this platform!"
3:32 PM · Apr 28, 2023
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1652048146195959809

and:


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
·
58m
"Note, it takes a few days longer for subscriptions to go active on iPhone vs web, as all subscriptions currently have to be approved by Apple"

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
"Rolling out next month, this platform will allow media publishers to charge users on a per article basis with one click.

This enables users who would not sign up for a monthly subscription to pay a higher per article price for when they want to read an occasional article.

Should be a major win-win for both media orgs & the public."
11:31 AM · Apr 29, 2023
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1652349875017879552

I get the idea. He paid a fortune for twitter, the advertisers all went away and he's still trying to make money. There's something called "Return On Investment."

However, he has managed to avoid embarrassing himself greatly in the last few weeks. He does have some hundreds of million users. Maybe he should set his office back in Tesla or SpaceX and hire an ad manager? Then he could follow Rule 0 of business management?

^^^ Lol, it's funny watching 'Monday Morning Quarterbacks' give the World's second wealthiest person business advice.

Tucker 'Twitter' Carlson

This should be interesting, lol. I will add that even though I'm unabashedly conservative I never watched Carlson with any regularity.


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
"On this platform, unlike the one-way street of broadcast, people are able to interact, critique and refute whatever is said.

And, of course, anything misleading will get
@CommunityNotes
.

I also want to be clear that we have not signed a deal of any kind whatsoever. Tucker is subject to the same rules & rewards of all content creators.

Rewards means subscriptions and advertising revenue share (coming soon), which is a function of how many people subscribe and the advertising views associated with the content.

I hope that many others, particularly from the left, also choose to be content creators on this platform." https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1656079504778092544


Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
"We’re back." https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...37032538390530

Had multiple Twitter burner accounts over the years. Since Tesla-boy took over I jumped ship and now it sounds like I have even less reason to go back. Twitter is a cesspool of hate.

To each their own and not an indictment of your past practices but my opinion is that multiple "burner accounts", usually anonymous, enabled the proliferation of mis-information and bots in the first place.

Not at all, just have an obsession about privacy and I never post anything on social media using my real identity, especially when I am speaking my mind. What is the saying: "A man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask and he will tell you the truth."

A lot of people still use it. Few really care, about who owns it.

Because if they did, they may considering close the account they have. I don't mean somebody on there for a month and then closing it, but longe term users, over several years. They don't care about the negatives only their own interest, business, politics. What ever.

Yeah, if it weren't funny, it'd be painful to watch. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ety-moderation

I wonder if he'll back down against the EU, or if he'll stand his ground and let Twitter be blocked in the world's 3rd most populous continent.
https://www.businesstoday.in/technol...210-2023-05-29
https://www.euractiv.com/section/pla...exit-possible/
Well, he was the wealthiest before buying Twitter... His wealth fell by ~63% during the 14 months after November 2021.

Given the same starting point, I'm sure many of those "Monday Morning Quarterbacks" could have done better... though perhaps with less sensationalism.

Yep, just 'flailing' along,lol.


"Elon Musk has reclaimed his position as the world’s wealthiest person.

That’s according to a Bloomberg Billionaires tally, which estimated the Tesla (TSLA) CEO’s net worth is now about $192 billion, compared to LVMH (LVMHF) CEO Bernard Arnault’s $187 billion.

The two centibillionaires, a term used to refer to people with fortunes of more than $100 billion, have been neck-and-neck for the top spot for months."
By Michelle Toh, CNN
Updated 10:27 PM EDT, Wed May 31, 2023

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/busin...hnk/index.html

"Elon Musk

@elonmusk
This platform will provide email addresses of subscribers (who opt in) to content creators, so that creators are able to leave this platform easily & take their subscribers with them if they want
1:31 AM · Jun 7, 2023" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1666331961281900545

... Which is $150 billion less than he had in November 2021.

Your definition of success intrigues me.

Most of that loss was in over-priced TESLA stock - $314.67 to 101.81 - back to 209.48. The Tesla Model Y is once again leading car sales around the World. I doubt Mr. Musk loses sleep over balancing his check book.

Which explains all of the recovery in his wealth... The bounce back to position #1 has nothing to do with Twitter.

His position has also been helped by governments around the world. Eg: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary...d2223a/23bd009

Could you imagine owning a company selling products which are subsidised by governments everywhere?

Anyhow, his marketing strategy (wrapped up as the Twitter purchase) certainly seems to have worked on you. How long until you buy a Tesla? Would you have even considered it 3 years ago?

For some reason your link is throwing a "WAF BLOCK" for me.

"How long until you buy a Tesla?" - likely never. I'm a diesel fan although I ran big block Chevy pick-up trucks most of my life. I may buy a Ford 'Lightning' when they become more available.

Try this one: https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Frin...ars-exemption/

For context: There is no such exemption for petrol or diesel powered vehicles.

That link worked. No help for someone such as myself who uses trucks for both work and 'play', that I saw. It will be interesting to see 'real World' performance of electric vehicles in rural areas here in the States and elsewhere.

It seems a bit silly to credit or blame a person for fluctuations in the stock market which are obviously beyond their control. (I would imagine the 2021 high and subsequent drop are more about interest rates than any particular company action.)

And the particular ranking of centibillionaires also seems a bit silly since so much of their wealth is non-cash, any particular number given is just an estimate.

Not sure about Australia, but didn't all American auto-makers get bailouts by the government a few years ago?

No, just GM and Chrysler with Ford having enough cash on hand to out last the crisis. The bailout was considered emergency loans with Chrysler repaying everything and GM not repaying something like 9 billion.

Nitpick: Shouldn't CNN be using "hectobillionaire" rather than "centibillionaire" for someone who has 100 billion?

Mostly true, in that people use it for the size of its community more than anything else. That doesn't stop users legitimately complaining about the owner's behaviour/politics/other businesses though. I've tried a couple of alternatives and found they have better interfaces, but dang they're quiet. FWIW I think the Twitter UI has improved a bit since Musk took over, and the kind of users it chooses to show me have complained a bit less about censorship.

It depends upon what you mean by "truck."

Having highlighted those rules, I have to also say that there are blanket exceptions for vehicles specified to carry more than 1,000 kilograms. They tend to be a "piece of equipment," rather than recreational use vehicles.

If you're talking about a basic Dodge Ram or Ford F-100, then there's no joy for you. The standard payloads for both of those are less than 1,000 kilograms (550 in the case of a basic Ram... a bit pathetic for something that big).

If you're talking about an 8 ton trayback, then yes, they're exempted from Fringe Benefits Tax and their owners also get to claim a rebate for the excise on the diesel they use.
Yes, it certainly will.

That's not quite the same as being spoonfed customers by governments who incentivise the purchase of your product.

Elon is being handed customers on a silver platter. He's in the right place at the right time. It doesn't take much skill to grow a business in that situation.

You or I could easily do it if either of us were born into the same circumstances as Mr. Musk.

It's worse, IMO. At least electric car subsidies are open to other companies.

It's not just the US government subsidising his product. There is a big world outside the US, you know. In fact, >96% of the world's population doesn't live there.

That's a huge market to have handed to you by governments everywhere. Yes, these things are open to other companies too, but it doesn't take any naus to grow a business in those circumstances.

How did this thread get on to the merits (or lack thereof) of electric transport. Last time everyone was slagging off Musk. Let's face it, he boughttwitter for $$44 billion, it's worth about a third of that now. Of that loans have to be given back in full, regardless of the drop in value. If he suckered some folks into buying shares, they've lost big time.

It's not.

It is about the ease with which one can grow a business when you're selling products which are incentivised by governments the world over.

But some here fantasise that Mr. Musk is somehow a prodigy to be worshipped.

Musk has skill in getting money behind him, vision & imagination. And he can sell. SpaceX is arguably the best space effort in the world. Tesla is one of the world's great electric car ranges. He traded for many years at a loss, and still money kept flowing in. Not many have those personal qualities.

It's only when Musk gets on twitter, and much worse, after he bought it, that you can see through him. He's a prejudiced 'a**hole' as I believe the American expression is. We have a saying here about the lift (elevator) not going to the top story when we imply a mental deficiency. Musk seems to have the opposite problem. The lift doesn't go to the ground floor, where twitter tests him. But it goes way beyond the top story. That irritates folks who want to get out there.

Is this the look of a successful business?

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/14/tw...r-unpaid-rent/

You don't have to be responsible to be succesful anymore, see: hollywood, music labels, etc.

Musk may relocate. He has a nice place in Dublin, Holland, England, etc. In fact if he's that hard up, he may even de-locate, and dispense with offices altogether. He is unpredictable. I won't say he's mad, but if he somehow ended up in a psych ward, would you let him out? :D

Crazy like a fox.
"Apple TV
@AppleTV
3 days until the #Silo finale.

Here’s the entire first episode."
https://twitter.com/AppleTV/status/1673730750095712256

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
"Improved longform posts"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674226170488057856

Twitter Write
@TwitterWrite
"Two new features for writers: you can now post up to 25,000 characters and add up to 4 inline images. Subscribe to access these new features: ..."
https://twitter.com/TwitterWrite/sta...21120495685635

I'm not in twitter at all. I can't raise those posts you're linking. I get some privacy error. Should I be using a 'don't care' browser?

 

You've already read the posts - it's the text quoted on the lines above the links.

However, if one wanted to view replies/media/etc, Nitter can be used - simply change twitter.com to nitter.net, e.g:

"https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674226170488057856" -> "https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1674226170488057856"

(That's just an example, not a recommendation to read the link, which contains nothing worth reading.)

Opinions are like ...well, you know, everyone has one. I happen to disagree but to each his own.

Thanks. I tried the nitter.net link on Chromium-ungoogled. It returned "Tweet not found." I'll try that when others are less thorough.

 

Odd; works here. Occasionally rate limiting kicks in, but IIRC that gives a different message. (Also, there are other Nitter instances which can be used when that happens.)

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/30/2...account-tweets

I got through on one of the European based servers. It made me ever so glad I don't have twitter. I have one working mirror bookmarked. I'll probably never use it.

There is some speculation that the change was to keep LLMs from training on the site. Have no idea if that's true. Is this site viewable without logging in?

Elon Musk

"@elonmusk
To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits:

- Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day
- Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day
- New unverified accounts to 300/day
12:01 PM · Jul 1, 2023"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672

When I'm not logged in, visiting any links to a Twitter post (example: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672), show me a login page. Can't view the post at all.