Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

That's a nice one: http://www.brankovukelic.com/2013/01...n-desktop.html

I am writing this post on a little Toshiba laptop which is running a more-or-less fresh install of Windows 7 Home Premium - it's my dad's, and I volunteered to remove the preinstalled Toshiba bloat/trialware. I'm really jarred at the sheer enormity of the task, having been a happy Linux user for the past two years...

Originally Posted by R3nCi I am writing this post on a little Toshiba laptop which is running a more-or-less fresh install of Windows 7 Home Premium - it's my dad's, and I volunteered to remove the preinstalled Toshiba bloat/trialware. I'm really jarred at the sheer enormity of the task, having been a happy Linux user for the past two years...

Ten years ago, everyone in my family and all of my friends would come to me for technical support all of the time.

Then, Windows Vista came out. When they'd ask me for help, I'd stumble around the clickity-click interface of Vista for a while, become visibly frustrated (after a while, this was, I'll admit, some part dramatic presentation), but then eventually get done whatever it was that they had requested.

When Windows 7 became the new kid on the block, my new strategy began. When someone would present me with a problem, I'd ask some cursory questions. Then, after discussing things for a minute, I'd ask what operating system their computer was using. When they said "Windows 7", I'd just say, "Oh ... I'm sorry; I've never used or even seen Windows 7 before. I probably can't help."

Nobody has ever even asked me for help in a couple of years, except for one guy at work who's very new Windows 7 laptop was hosed. I asked him what the computer was used for. "Excel, web browsing, email, and some word processing," was the reply.

After the standard disclaimers and urges to back things up, I agreed to fix his computer. I installed Ubuntu 10, WINE, and Microsoft Office (his copy). That was two years ago. We spoke a few months back, and he thanked me again for the "repair," which I'd forgotten about, saying, "man, thanks for fixing the problems on that laptop; we haven't had a single problem with it since." I'm not even sure he understands what an operating system is or what I did, but he likes it.

TL;DR - If you're a real "Linux only" user, avoid having to give Windows-using friends technical support by feigning ignorance; Eventually, it won't be an act anymore.

EDIT: I don't have to use Windows at work and nothing I own runs it; I live in an all Slackware, CentOS, and iOS world, and it's glorious.

Originally Posted by foodown *

Drives me crazy too so from now on I will just boot them up in a few different live Linuxes and point some things out...

hey hey all of you are biased towards Linux.
Windows is good as well, atleast for home entertainment.

Originally Posted by myzoneajay hey hey all of you are biased towards Linux. Windows is good as well, at least for home entertainment.

[Statistically]Ya so is the power company\zoning-laws stopping, of all things, solar-panels!?.[/Statistically]

Originally Posted by BlackRider _____________ Windows rises the costs of your computer by 20%. Don't be fooled! Buy only computers without operating system, or with a free operating system preinstalled.

And: Free as in Freedom@http://manybooks.net/titles/williams0sametext04freed10.html

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Ya so is the power company\zoning-laws stopping, of all things, solar-panels!?

What does this have to do with anything?

Windows is good as well, at lease for home entertainment.

Well, I'm sure that on windowsquestions.org, you'd see a bit of the same bias in reverse.

Originally Posted by foodown *

I figured we need power (not m.s.) for electronic entertainment but monopoly laws here are only designed to benefit them so we get f#!ked! And, mICROSOFT being a rapist as well...
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I have always loved your sig by the way

windows whats your computer to get outdated and viruses for gain. Linux wants to run well on anything.

Think I already put this but any1 with billions and millions want(s)ed\need(s)ed a lower-lower-class to prey on.

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By the way, by the way, lol, I almost always have to edit my points (speilling, etc.) and usually have more to add...but I can't fit that in my sig4now

Originally Posted by myzoneajay hey hey all of you are biased towards Linux. Windows is good as well, atleast for home entertainment.

Yup I rather enjoy watching the BSOD when I need to use windoze for anything more complicated than using the built in calculator to add 2+2

Originally Posted by myzoneajay hey hey all of you are biased towards Linux. Windows is good as well, atleast for home entertainment.

We may be biased towards linux, but I still use windows, and I suspect that others do too. I prefer linux because it isn't a monopoly and is free. Windows doesn't meet either of those specification.

Originally Posted by myzoneajay ...at BEST for home entertainment.

Fixed that for you.

So here's a thing I noticed recently. At work on Win7 we have an app that crashes about once a day. Processors goes up to 100%, desktop becomes unusable. Locked dead, nothing doing. ct-alt-del gets task manager up if I do it and go for a cuppa, eventually after much waiting, egg timers and jerky mouse I can normally kill the offender. This process normally wastes a good 20 minutes. Nightware.

I've been using Mint 14 KDE at home on my laptop recently and have had a problem with Gwenview crashing. Yep, apps crash sometimes, on Linux as well as Windows, but that only kinda emphasises my point.

On Linux I was noticing my browser was a bit laggy, flash was slow to load. My main menu, is it a bit twitchy? I THINK so, everythings just not quite as perky as it should be. So I opened system monitor and lo and behold, there is a zombie Gwenview hitting my processors at 100%. Killed it. Job done.

Only later did it occur to me to ask WHY? Why is it that Linux can cope with a misbehaving app in such a graceful way that you're not even sure there's a problem, when a misbehaving app on Windows freezes everything as dead as a donut.

And now I think back, it is pretty much every version of windows I've ever seen (and I started on 3.1) when an app hits 100% cpu Windows becomes paralysed. The only time I have ever seen Linux stricken in the same way was when I had hardware faults.

Interesting, don't you think?

That's just because Linux derivatives behave much more civilized, partly because of research and development, more than windoze which we all know cannot handle anything more than absolute basic programs. This all stems from microslop's " Fire it out to the public first and then we can patch here, there ,and anywhere else it might be needed"!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by tiredofbilkyyaforallican more than windoze which we all know cannot handle anything more than absolute basic programs.

That is funny, on my system (and the systems I maintain for friends) Blender runs as well on Windows as on Linux, as does GIMP, Firefox, LibreOffice, .... My games run fine and back in the time when I used Windows exclusively I rarely had such problems (and they sometimes occur on Linux as well, Linux is no magic cure for bad application developing).

Sometimes I think that Linux zealots talking nonsense are much more harmful for the Linux world than bad application development for the Windows world.

Well I am sorry you believe windoze to be a good OS. I'll stick to my preferences and leave microslop where it belongs ...IN THE TRASH!