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I can move the cursor with arrow keys in vim. Even in Insert mode. The good ol' vi does not support this.
Well, maybe in standard vim, but *not* in vim.tiny. Try to use the arrow keys in vim.tiny, and you will *not* be able to move the cursor. I use nano for most of my CLI editing, as it supports movement of the cursor, and Geany for GUI editing as it integrates with various compilers and in a sense counts as a light IDE/strong text editor. In my opinion, however, it's really a text editor with added IDE-like features, not a light IDE.
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Originally Posted by indienick
I've noticed many people saying "vi and vim should be the same item to vote for", but if my memory serves, in the past few years of voting, they were together and people were constantly asking them to be separated. Because, really, vi != vim.
They should be in the same category, because doing otherwise makes the popularity of vi and vi clones appear to be diluted. Plop me down in front of a terminal with either vi or vim and I probably won't complain, and half of the time probably won't even realise what variety I'm using- but that's just me.
Ah, the editor war continues
I'm not an emacs guru by a long shot and only relatively recently began picking up org-mode but got some time to spend some more time with org-mode today and continue to be blown away at how useful it is. Yet since my mentioning of it, I've seen no commentary, not even from Emacs folks.
Oh yeah, btw, I forget what it's called but an org-mode clone is being implemented in vim. So vim'ers have a low bar of entry to check it out....;-)
Well, maybe in standard vim, but *not* in vim.tiny. Try to use the arrow keys in vim.tiny, and you will *not* be able to move the cursor. I use nano for most of my CLI editing, as it supports movement of the cursor, and Geany for GUI editing as it integrates with various compilers and in a sense counts as a light IDE/strong text editor. In my opinion, however, it's really a text editor with added IDE-like features, not a light IDE.
I never use vim.tiny. I always use vim when on Linux and vi when on other Unix like systems. I didnt use much of ol' vi until the time I needed to work with solaris and that gave me an opportunity to work with it. And some additional plugins and you can have auto completion and all. Its always a must have.
Follows is a response prompted by comment in the File Manager thread that, as I elaborated no longer really belonged there, so I'm posting here:
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Originally Posted by tallship
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The file manager I use the most is 'sh'.
It's also the file manager that most of you use most of the time too
And vim has a 'commander' like plug-in too that's already in most distros
Not to mention "dired" that's been standard feature of Emacs since, like.. forever.... I've used Vi since the early 80's. It was a godsend at a time when IBM Selectric was still the cat's meow for most. Vi has it's place. Ad in modern decades, that is as an ubiquitous editor found on every *nix like platform I've ever used that I can rely on being present to for edits of configuration files, etc.
If, however, you do more extensive authoring projects, do yourself a favor and invest some hours/days with Emacs. Emacs isn't a cheap date that is going to hop in the sack with you on the first date for some instant gratification. But once you invest some time, Emacs really begins to shine. And if you need to manage projects, stay organized, and like to utilize a "get things done" approach, org-mode is one "killer app".
I don't code so cannot speak to that. But I do know that Linus uses Emacs as his preferred "IDE".
For plain text, I always go with Gedit, but anything that has syntax, Geany is my favourite. For console text editing, I prefer nano. Don't much care for vi. ;)
With so many slackware users here, I'm surprised that jed isn't on the poll. It's my multi-purpose text-editor / dev tool. I guess I'll vote for jEdit since it's almost spelled like jed. Plus I use it when I have to work in windows.
for command line it's VIM - however Sublime Text is now available for linux, so for GUI txt editors cab you include that. It's awesome.
In fact, the GUI vim (gvim) is at least as good as the console version. And the console version is still better than all the other GUIs put together. My big beef is that none of the distros compile it with the server option in, so you cannot send files to it with "vim --remote" (handy as a default action in filebrowsers), for shame.
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