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For your information (as the poll is over),
the browser i use / prefer is depending the
desktop environment (such as whether gnome
or kde), as in the gnome desktop environment
i often prefer galeon over firefox (yet use both);
in the kde desktop environment i use but
firefox (never konqueror); also for both
desktop environments i like to have opera
available as i guess opera is truly the best
browser (though i do not yet use it often but for special tasks for
which opera then is the best option).
I used to use FireFox but it crashes way to much. And they know that so they include a nice little feature to let you go back to where you crashed at. This is very bad programming. What it really means is "we know your stuff is a pile but we can't fix it so here is a feature to work around the pile." What's very interesting is I have no rashes with Seamonkey even when going to the same sites that crashed FireFox. This tells me that the problem with FireFox isn't in the engine but somewhere else in the code.
There are some browsers on the list that I have never used but I have firefox, galeon. epiphany, konqueror, opera, and seamonkey on my gnome desktop and by far my favorite is Seamonkey!
It is... kinda. Codeweavers made a port and named it CrossOver Chromium. By port, consider it an easy to install Chrome browser running on the top of wine.
Don't be too disappointed though. Even if Google would release Chrome for Linux "officially" it would also be running on the top of wine, like every other application Google ever released to Linux, so...
This one is hard for me to vote because only mplayerplug-in works in Firefox. On the other hand, Opera handles Flash a lot better or does not crash. Even though I use Firefox for almost every site, Opera has made a lot of changes in 2008. Opera has provided some resilience to a Flash crash and no more ads, so I give my vote to Opera.
What is mplaerplug-in ? How to install it ? Why mplayerplug-ins only works in Firefox ?
Don't be too disappointed though. Even if Google would release Chrome for Linux "officially" it would also be running on the top of wine, like every other application Google ever released to Linux, so...
Makes me wonder why all the RMS fanboys who love open source also love Google when so many of their well known and beloved products that run under Linux are not in any way open enough to run on anything other than a specific set of environments through compatibility and emulation API.
It's the reason I don't use Google Earth and won't be using Google Chrome anytime soon.
Makes me wonder why all the RMS fanboys who love open source also love Google when so many of their well known and beloved products that run under Linux are not in any way open enough to run on anything other than a specific set of environments through compatibility and emulation API.
It's the reason I don't use Google Earth and won't be using Google Chrome anytime soon.
Makes me wonder why all the RMS fanboys who love open source
OK, when you want to talk about something first understand it. RMS "fanboys" love Free software. Open source is a different movement. Just ask RMS himself (I have).
In fact, Free software "saints" will not use anything that is not Free software unless it is used in the advancement of Free software e.g. Original GNU software compiled under UNIX. Anyone aspiring will avoid using anything that's not Free software unless there is no alternative.
Google has non-Free software but it also has a lot of Free software, and it contributes truckloads of money to FLOSS.
Talking about Chrome
Quote:
Chromium is the open source project behind Google Chrome.[2] The Google-authored portion of it is released under the BSD license, with other parts being subject to a variety of different permissive open-source licenses, including the MIT License, the LGPL, the Ms-PL and a MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license.[3] It implements the same feature set as Chrome, but has a slightly different logo.[4]
So no, not everything is RMS GPLd but many would argue it is still FLOSS.
OK, when you want to talk about something first understand it. RMS "fanboys" love Free software. Open source is a different movement. Just ask RMS himself (I have).
Thanks, it was very enlightening to find out there's a difference between "open source" and "free software". Is that like the difference between "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" and "GNU/Also-Some-BSD-Scattered-In-There-Somewhere/Linux"?
This doesn't have anything to do with my point which is why people who normally really believe in freedom are not clamoring for an actual "FLOSS" (as you say, though for myself that's usually what I use between my teeth) codebase that will compile on more platforms than just Ubuntu x86. If supposedly free / open / libre software only runs in one place, is it still useful? But maybe the true freedom-loving GNU folks who want people to use their computers how they see fit regardless of what free operating environment they're using are a smaller number than I thought!
If supposedly free / open / libre software only runs in one place, is it still useful?
I think we are mostly on the same frequency.
I don't know if Chrome is totally FLOSS or not. (I haven't cared for it yet)
Maybe I misread you. From your post I understood that you were saying that RMS Fanboys liked using Chrome eventhough it wasn't FLOSS.
That's why my intention was clarifying it as I understand it.
I won't repeat the 4 Freedoms required --Acording to RMS-- for a program to qualify as Free software. You seem quite knowledgeable on the topic. But being multiplatform is not one of the freedoms. Actually there may be many applications that cannot be multiplatform due to some specific requirements. Some others just because the original developers cared about only one platform. Free software will allow other people to take it and port it if they want.
P.S. I find the difference between Free software and Open software to be relevant.
I find the difference between Free software and Open software to be relevant.
I agree completely.
Over the years, we've had tons of "freeware" developed for Windows, but, just like Windows, it was 'closed-source'. IOW, while one was free to use and share the software, the freeware license prohibited reverse-engineering and altering the code.
And then there was "Public Domain" software...
Cheers
Last edited by DragonSlayer48DX; 05-21-2009 at 06:08 PM.
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