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I wouldn't mind 11-12-13 although for some that would be 12-11-13, not so pretty.
Both dd-mm-yy and yy-mm-dd make sense to me. The American style of sticking the 'day' in the middle I just don't get. What's the rationale behind that?
Both dd-mm-yy and yy-mm-dd make sense to me. The American style of sticking the 'day' in the middle I just don't get. What's the rationale behind that?
It's derived from the written idiom of "October 28, 2013" transformed to the notational shorthand of 10-28-13. More commonly the slash character is the delimiter, thus 10/28/13.
There's a reason for everything but not everything is reasonable.
The style of YYYY-MM-DD makes good sense in terms of sorting.
All my life I have been using dd-mm-yyyy for most things. However, when it comes to sorting, as mentioned above, it just doesn't work. I organise my photo collection in directories using yyyy-mm-dd-title.
It's derived from the written idiom of "October 28, 2013"
That in itself is weird to me. Personally I would say, "the 28th of October, 2013". Sure, I have heard said with the month first but again, pretty much only by people from the US.
I also use yyyy-mm-dd in things like filenames where sorting is important, and sometimes julian style yy.ddd (got used to this from my mainframe days)
Ruari, I think the American style of saying "Month Day" makes more sense if you think of it as one data item rather than two, i.e. "the day of the year is 'October 28' ", rather than "the month is 'October' and the day is the '28th'". But yes, putting the month first isn't cultural convention here either so it does feel odd.
Ruari, I think the American style of saying "Month Day" makes more sense if you think of it as one data item rather than two, i.e. "the day of the year is 'October 28' ", rather than "the month is 'October' and the day is the '28th'". But yes, putting the month first isn't cultural convention here either so it does feel odd.
Yep, I think 'odd' is the good way to put it. It doesn't feel totally wrong but certainly feels odd to me.
Off-topic: IIRC you are British. Since you state, "isn't cultural convention here either" you may not be aware that I am as well. People are often thrown my surname (which I acquired from my wife after marriage, reversing the normal tradition). In fact I am actually of English and Irish decent (my first name is Irish and should really be written, Ruarí [note the í], which is an Irish Gaelic version of Rory). Most of my life has been spent in England, though I lived for several years in the U.S. (to this day I could still easily recite "The Pledge of Allegiance" from my time attending U.S. schools). Additionally, I have now spent enough time in Norway that it has begun to feel like home (my slowly improving spoken Norwegian also helps with this).
People I work with would often back up their work in tarballs using 'mm-dd-yy.tar.gz' or 'dd-mm-yy.tar.gz' (depending on their 'cultural' origin).
For me having to deal with it - I threatened to delete every such file I came across unless it was in the 'yyyy-mm-dd.tar.gz' format.
It took'em a looong time - but finally I got them all doing it and now they all think it's such a good idea and "why did we not do this long time ago?" (I can only shake my head ....)
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In fact I am actually of English and Irish decent (my first name is Irish and should really be written, Ruarí [note the í], which is an Irish Gaelic version of Rory)
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Wow - and here I've thought all the time that you were Icelandic - least on your mother's side *chuckles*
Even the best efforts of mice and men didn't manage to get it right!
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