Has there ever been a bad release of Slackware? Everybody says the latest is better than the previous one, so is there a limit to perfection? And can Pat & The Team make an effort to bring out a bad one next time (get a few tips from other distros (no names))?

The weirdest thing about spoken Dutch for me is that if you are distant enough not to hear the words but only the rhythm, pitch and cadence then it sounds exactly like English Home Counties English -- and no other language is like that. One thing I love about languages is that they are living history; a possible explanation for the similarity of rhythm, pitch and cadence is that when travel by sea was easier than by land, the Netherlands and south east England would have been very "near" to each other.

Back on topic: the 13.1 iso files are torrenting down nicely ...

Not bad, but with a version of KDE that wasn't up to scratch.

Now this new release is fabulous, great, magnificent, tremendous, splendid, top notch, spectacular.... but enough of the hyperbole, this is a good one!

samac

Yes, 13.0 with KDE 4.2.4. That was fixed with vbatts' 4.3.1 packages.

No there isnt.

even the slackware forum has spell checking ..... how can others compete?

You are correct Mr Hameleers, your name is very easy to find the correct spelling; thank you for all your work.

Yes. This release was nice and usable! Thanks KDE-4.4.3 too!

[MODERATED] Thinking that the success of 13.1 is about this stupid KDE and no a new super-duper-version of Emacs, that sadly and tragical.

How about to remove the entire Emacs and (G)Vim sh*t from your tree, to leave space for this docs? You live beyond this DE. Be realistically!

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There is no forum where this would be appropriate. Come on, you know better than that.

Let me put in a vote against that. Vim is more useful to me than the Qt4 docs, and I have an ongoing project that uses Qt.

Furthermore, are you certain that the Qt4 docs were dropped for lack of space? Statements from the developers indicate that there were other reasons.

Um...I'm going to need some help understanding that post I think, but you are saying that Slackware should abandon gvim and emacs to include QT4 documentation? I don't use KDE, and I don't use QT4 and certainly would not use it for development...but I certainly use vim and others use emacs. You're saying that instead of providing applications Slackware should include documentation that is viewable online anyway instead of including fundamental editors that otherwise would have to be seeked out and compiled?

Unless I misunderstood of course...

@LuckyCyborg:

I kindly request that you do not comment on this forum when you are drunk or otherwise not in full possession of your mental qualities.
Your posts are generally insulting. Don't use Slackware if you think we are Nazis.

Eric

Awesome job as always! Thanks!

By the way, cheers to the folks at slackbuilds.org and sbopkg getting things up and running with those excellent resources in record time.

It'll be nice to get off the -current treadmill for awhile. 13.0's version of KDE was a little too finicky for me to stay with for long. This is a release I'll be able to configure and not touch for a long time.

Ah, the joys of stability.

I really do need to change my CD subscription to the DVD one though. I keep forgetting.

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I love Slackware, but you too, be realistically that today, you live beyond this ONLY DE: KDE, AlienBOB. You don't believe me? Remove this DE from Slackware, like happened with GNOME, and you can see the results. How many use VIM, GVIM, EMACS and others DE like XFCE & Co.

Sorry if you think that this things is an insult. I love diversity. But, as a joke, I can say: I hate to make a trip in Canada to buy a book about American English, when I live in USA.

I thought your complaint was about the Qt4 docs? The Qt4 docs are not the DE documentation.

BTW, LuckyCyborg, do you develop software that uses the Qt toolkit? If not, then the Qt4 docs are useless to you. If so, then having them on the DVD is useless because you have broadband (something all developers need).

As far as I have been able to determine in such a short time KDE is performing as well, if not better, than 3.5.10.

This is purely subjective as it is difficult to make a direct comparison, however as an example. I was able to play foobillard with the graphics near full quality (I prefer the sphere-mapped balls), audacious playing background music, nepomuk doing it's thing and the 3D effects enabled on the DE. I had no problems doing all this at once with Slackware 13.1, the KDE in Slackware 13.0 couldn't manage just running foobillard smoothly.

I am going to stay on the stable release for this one as it is performing very well indeed.

samac

Hi,

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PV maintains, distributes and owns Slackware so it's his decision.

He does take input from users but yours will never fly since the justifications for Emacs & vim are published and a fair reason.

When you maintain, support and own your distribution then include anything you decide to include. The balance with Slackware is fair and in my opinion has more than enough therefore meeting the needs of most users. If not then add what you want with a little work. To voice in the fashion of your rant does no one any good.