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View Poll Results: Should slackware get modernized for today's computers?
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:26 PM   #16
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I am a big fan of slackware and Arch. And, I believe it's time for slackware to get modernized. Packages are either optimize for i386 and i486. It's time to get i686 optimized for better performance.
Slackware is already optimized for i686, it has mtune=i686, like dugan said. If you really care about modernization, use Slackware64.

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Secondly, it's time for slackware to start doing package dependency handling. I don't mind handling the dependencies myself, but there are times when it gets to much when those dependencies requires their own dependencies to be resolved.
You are using the wrong distro, at least for the moment. Try some other distros and maybe you'll see why what you're recommending is not a good thing.

What you really want is for Slackware to be the same as the other distros, but what you don't understand is that Slackware is the best distro, because it is different from those other distros.

I'm wondering if you will get a single extra yes vote. I doubt it.
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:49 PM   #17
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I use Slackware64-13.1 (64 bits) and I think it is already as modern as any other 64 bits linux distro.
My answer is no.
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:29 PM   #18
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As others have said, Slack *is* optimized for i686, it just still supports older hardware well. I'm primarily an Arch user these days, but I maintain an up to date Slack partition just because it is so different from most modern distros, and it inevitably teaches me something about *nix every single time I use it.

In Arch you have Pacman, which is an elegant, efficient, and stable package management system. It handles everything for you very well, in most situations. If you put something like that in Slackware, it wouldn't be Slackware anymore (in fact, it would be Frugalware). It's weird but for me it was a satisfying moment when I had my Slackware desktop running with all of the same customizations, and programs, that I have on my Arch install. Mostly because with Slack I did a lot of it by hand. To get everything the way I like it I compiled conky, sabnzb, transmission, vlc, etc, myself. It was fun. I understand not everyone is looking for that style of fun, which is why you have all of those other distros out there to pick from.
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:31 PM   #19
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You'll probably guessed my vote is yes and it is.
So you were the one who voted yes
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 04:32 PM   #20
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22 vs 1
 
Old 09-07-2011, 04:46 PM   #21
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Well a LQ newbie with 9 posts, starting a poll to "modernize" Slackware... Is it a bad joke ?? For me it looks like a troll or a "Facebook-look at me" syndrome...

Learn to read the forum first, and a bit of brain will tells you that your question/poll is dumb and stupid, and maybe an offence to Slack's team, user base, and LQ slack community.

I won't vote to this rubbish, I'd just vote so this thread would be locked or disappears....

Edit: obviously you know nothing on how computers work... Try to do some BASIC some months, then maybe some C many years, have a taste of asm... Show us the result, maybe you'll start to be credible on a technical point of view...

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Old 09-07-2011, 05:26 PM   #22
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Excuse me everyone...but where in my first post am saying anything bad or trolling about slackware? Just merely making a suggestion that slackware should do package dependency handling like arch does for example.

There is a difference between a suggestion and a complain. I am not complaining about slackware's packaging system whatsoever. I currently use Arch linux but have used slackware in the past. Slackware is a great distro.

This is my first poll in LQ and not a perfect one. Hell, we all had made bad polls too.

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Old 09-07-2011, 05:30 PM   #23
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Excuse me everyone...but where in my first post am saying anything bad or trolling about slackware? Just merely making a suggestion that slackware should do package dependency handling
You're not saying anything bad, its that noone likes your suggestion.

edit: Do you think you're the first one suggesting this? Here is a reply to your suggestion: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post4263386

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Old 09-07-2011, 05:33 PM   #24
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As others have said, Slackware is optimized for i686.

The dependency handling is a preference, why not use third party solutions or another distro? Yeah it's convenient but it's also nice having a distro without it and there are some pros to it, you don't have to worry about it tearing your system apart when something screws up. For instance, I was upgrading Debian Squeeze to Testing once and some error occurred when it was downloading packages. I tried to resume and it then recommended that I remove every package on my system.
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:35 PM   #25
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Hi,

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Greetings,

This is my first poll on this forum.
Putting up a defense? Nothing wrong with polls from knowledgeable members.
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I am a big fan of slackware and Arch. And, I believe it's time for slackware to get modernized. Packages are either optimize for i386 and i486. It's time to get i686 optimized for better performance.
If you are a big fan, that's nice! But apparently you do not understand things when it comes to Slackware. Unique!

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Secondly, it's time for slackware to start doing package dependency handling. I don't mind handling the dependencies myself, but there are times when it gets to much when those dependencies requires their own dependencies to be resolved.
Come-On-Man! This is Slackware! If you do not like to get your hands dirty therefore understanding how to work things out with Slackware then I suggest that you look at 'Salix' or something similar.
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C'mon, It's 2011 and not the nineties. I don't believe there are that many people using i386 and i486 desktops and/or laptops.

In summary, slackware is a great distro and can do even better if optimized like the i686 distros.

It's time for slackware to get modernized.

You'll probably guessed my vote is yes and it is.

- later
Come-On-Man! If you are looking from your little environment and not thinking about the world community that does not upgrade to the newest and greatest hardware.

Loads of people throughout the world still use earlier family processors and some do not have x86_64 bit.

Even new versions of Slackware are built on the Slackware philosophy. It works, don't fix it! Optimized is the favorite flavor of the month.
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In summary, slackware is a great distro and can do even better if optimized like the i686 distros.
Tell me you have bench-marked your optimized Gnu/Linux kernel and the numbers are 2 fold. My money is that your gain isn't noticeable.

Slackware is modern! Learn to use it.
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:52 PM   #26
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Slackware is modern! Learn to use it.
I know how to use slackware. Just haven't used it for a long, long time. The last time I used slackware was version 10.x
 
Old 09-07-2011, 06:09 PM   #27
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And I thought Slackware is already modern. Should the title be about package management?
 
Old 09-07-2011, 06:12 PM   #28
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There are about 350 actively maintained Linux distributions. If a distribution is not to your liking, just pick one that is.
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:13 PM   #29
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I don't want to sound arrogant or anything like that but if you're suggesting introducing dependency checking, you don't seem to appreciate and understand Slackware's beauty and simplicity. You seem to want Slackware to be like Ubuntu/Mint but still to be Slackware! Bringing a distro to the 21st century doesn't simply mean doing what others do. IMO, Slackware has achieved a perfect balance between distros like Ubuntu and LFS/Gentoo.

Obviously, my vote was 'Hell, No!'
 
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:52 PM   #30
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I like it just fine the way it is. I have tried others with package dependency checking and always come back to Slackware. It just works. I got a new Dell pc with touch screen and installed Slackware64 on it and everything just worked perfectly. I had to set up the driver for the Broadcom card but the touchscreen worked out of the box. It runs faster than Windows 7 that came with the PC too with full KDE running. For me Slack is modern enough and just fine the way it is.

I enjoy installing packages myself as I put on only what I want and not everything else someone thinks I need. The KDE is the vanilla version, not a modified version for the distro. I don't get stuff like Ubuntu's Unity desktop shoved down my throat either; nor do I have to upgrade every six months. I have tried Ubuntu on this PC and Slack still beats it at every turn.

I also am able to easily run Slack on my 64 bit desktop, my 32 bit laptop and my little netbook. I run KDE on the netbook and it runs great too!

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