I managed to get 3D working, and the display is correct in Tuxracer, but the normal X display has a widened part near the middle. What might the problem be?

Exactly 613.8 fps, with this config ( seems the most tweaked in the device section )

Thank you so very much for all of your assistance!!! I was able to solve
the problem without having to install a new video driver or GLIBC!!! The
problem was with the mouse driver and as I read on the net you can't bring
up X without the mouse!!! You know how you can do a "cat /dev/mouse".
Well, mine did not work as it was mapped to the following
"/dev/mouse -->/dev/input/mice" which was wrong and did not work as I had a PS/2 mouse and needed "/dev/mouse-->/dev/psaux"!!!! When I did a cat /dev/psaux, it worked and I attempted to change in the Config file, but to no avail!!! I decided to take a big leap of faith and reinstall Linux 7.2 entirely and make sure to take the settings that Linux finds and see if it fixes the driver issue and brings up X. Sure enough, I was prompted for PS/2 mouse and then when I tested X, it tested perfectly and booted perfectly as well!!! As I said before, there was no change to the radeon driver (I believe that the 7000 chipset is a few years old so I was lucky here) and the mouse driver was fixed as I had anticipated with the Configuration file reflecting the problem driver initialization sequence. Thank you so very much once again!!!

Best Regards,

Eric.

I've been reading this thread because I just upgraded to a Radeon 7000 card on my machine running Fedora Core 2. Every time I loaded the X server it'd lock the whole machine up in a coma. I finally figured out how to get the damn thing running with the glx option on in the xorg.conf file.

just add:

Option "ForcePCIMode" "YES"

to the

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "ATI Radeon 7000"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "ForcePCIMode" "YES"
EndSection

in the xorg.conf file and you're running! I was able to run "glxgears" @ 473 FPS. It also saves me from having to through down a few hundred for a new card. I hope this helps!

Rob

What I noticed, was that even with the generic GLX- and DRI-drivers for Radeon 7000 and 7200, Linux would lockup from time to time (just like with ATI's drivers for newer cards, 8500 and newer), at least with 2.6.x-kernels. So I switched those 2 Radeons away too, to GF2 MX, and got rid of all lockups once again. Big thumbs down for ATI again.

Same thing here, but a slightly different angle, my CPU is an overclocked Celeron 600 (running at 900MHz) I get the following:

$ glxgears
disabling TCL support
215 frames in 5.0 seconds = 43.000 FPS
214 frames in 5.0 seconds = 42.800 FPS
214 frames in 5.0 seconds = 42.800 FPS
215 frames in 5.0 seconds = 43.000 FPS
Broken pipe <----------- I killed it here

Now the question - given the low spec of my processor should I be expecting better than 43 fps when running glxgears in fullscreen at 1280x1024? System info follows...

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
disabling TCL support
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
GLX extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage,
GLX_SGI_video_sync
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20030328 x86/MMX/SSE NO-TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 5.0.2
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture,
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression,
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax,
GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint,
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_packed_pixels,
GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture,
GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_object,
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels,
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once,
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat,
GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table,
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp,
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2e 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2f 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x30 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x31 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x32 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow

# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 01)
00:0d.0 Serial controller: Rockwell International HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp (w/Handset) Modem (rev 01)
00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]

# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
radeon 99936 1
apm 9580 2
snd-pcm-oss 37736 0
snd-mixer-oss 12504 0 [snd-pcm-oss]
ipt_state 504 1 (autoclean)
ip_conntrack 19236 0 (autoclean) [ipt_state]
iptable_filter 1644 1 (autoclean)
ip_tables 12416 2 [ipt_state iptable_filter]
uhci 24444 0 (unused)
usbcore 59308 1 [uhci]
snd-es1938 11240 0
gameport 1420 0 [snd-es1938]
snd-pcm 56072 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-es1938]
snd-page-alloc 6328 0 [snd-pcm]
snd-opl3-lib 5892 0 [snd-es1938]
snd-hwdep 4804 0 [snd-opl3-lib]
snd-timer 13604 0 [snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib]
snd-mpu401-uart 3200 0 [snd-es1938]
snd-rawmidi 12740 0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device 3888 0 [snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi]
snd 30852 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-es1938 snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore 3396 6 [snd]
ne2k-pci 4576 1
8390 6000 0 [ne2k-pci]
crc32 2880 0 [8390]
ide-scsi 9328 0
agpgart 43940 1
lp 6724 0
parport_pc 14788 1
parport 23336 1 [lp parport_pc]

For info, relevant sections of my xorg.conf:

Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
Load "type1"
Load "speedo"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "GLcore"
EndSection

[...]

Section "Device"
Identifier "** ATI Radeon (generic) [radeon]"
Driver "radeon"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "ForcePCIMode" "YES"
EndSection

It looks like this is a thread dedicated to the awful Radeon 7000. so let me tel lmy stories too!
Have a Radeon 7000, works fine under windows. works like crap under linux. I'm running slackware 9.1, kernel 2.4.26. I can get dri enabled, but when I run glxgears, I can't seem to get more than ~300 fps. I have a P4 2.6GHZ, w/512 RAM and I think I should be able to get more than 300 fps. I have no idea why I can't. I've tried a number of suggestions on this page, including the
"Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "ForcePCIMode" "YES"
(these two were new to me) but they didn't work. actually the second one appears in my log file as a warning that this option is not being used. so I'm not sure why this would help some people who are using an AGP card
The only useful information I can find in my XFree86.0.log is

(WW) (1400x1050,monitor) mode clock 122MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz

which probably won't have an effect because I don't run my monitor at that resolution anyway and

(II) RADEON(0): [drm] failure adding irq handler, there is a device already using that irq
[drm] falling back to irq-free operation

but I have no idea what this means.

No one on the dri mailing list has had any really useful suggestions for a while. I've come to the conclusion that the support for this card generally sucks, and that there really isn't much that can be done except endless hourse of tweeking settings and compiling/installing new drivers andpraying, or getting a new card. Can anyone recommend a good card out there, which is known to work VERY WELL? something midrange, 256-512 RAM on the card would be good.....

Likewise with suse9.1; the pci option crashed X. Lucky you though...

Nvidia for me next time!

Just pick up the fastest nVidia-card you can afford.

I've never had a single problem with GeForce-cards (installed 10+ to Linux, GF2, GF3, GF4). Can't say that about ATI...

Does nvidia work best, or will any geForce (ASUS, MSI, etc...) work just as well?

As far as I've used GeForce-cards, any brand will do just as fine since they use the same nVidia-drivers.

any nvidia will work better than the ati card I have....

PLEASE BACKUP YOUR XF86CONFIG-4 BEFORE TRYING THIS!

cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/XF86Config-4.backup

if my settings mess up your display then do the reverse to get your original conf back

cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.backup /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

paths are relative to Debian...I'm a noob so I have no clue if these paths are global throughout distro's...


Hey,

I found a config. somewhere(?-I forget where exactly and if anyone recognize's it, I would like to say thank you very MUCH!) that gives this output for glxinfo:

Direct Rendering: Yes

Firstly, Maybe Klaus-the guy who release's knoppix distro's has this built into the install and other distributions, such as Red Hat or Mandrake or Suse, will need to install software or do MORE configurations than I have done-I don't suppose it would hurt to back up your exisiting XF86Config-4 file and try these settings.

I am using a knoppix distro , 3.6 (Debian 3.3 Linux 2.4.7 I beleive...I'm a noob so don't quote me here...), and I have only changed the XF86Config-4 file to match some suggestions on another Linux Site(again, I forget which one exactly: Might even have been this one :-), I've pasted the output of glxinfo and glxgears below this rambling. I will have to say that the re-configuration doesn't seem to have made much of a difference in speed between the standard vesa driver....it also seems to be running at AGP 1x while the card itself is capable of AGP 4x...and below that the relevant sections of the XF86Config-4 showing my changes....
==================================================

duder@buglerville:~$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
disabling TCL support
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20020611 AGP 1x x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE NO-TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 4.0.4
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture,
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression,
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_polygon_offset,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_texture3D,
GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_vertex_array,
GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_MESA_window_pos,
GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_SGI_color_matrix,
GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x25 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x26 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x27 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x28 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x29 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2a 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2b 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x2c 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x2d 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2e 24 dc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x2f 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x30 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None
0x31 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
0x32 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 Slow
duder@buglerville:~$ glxgears (slow frame rates still...sigh....I guess ATI will learn whe we all go out and buy nVidia next time eh?:-)
disabling TCL support (Does the Radeon 7000VE not support this? I thought it DID and I'm 99% sure it DOES in Windoz...!!!)
1752 frames in 5.0 seconds = 350.400 FPS
2003 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.600 FPS
2002 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.400 FPS
2003 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.600 FPS
2002 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.400 FPS
2003 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.600 FPS
2003 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.600 FPS
2003 frames in 5.0 seconds = 400.600 FPS



and here are the relevant parts of my XF86Config-4: I've bold my changes from the original, Knoppix generated, configuration.

---------snip----------


Section "Module"
Load "GLcore"
Load "bitmap"
Load "dbe"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "record"
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
Load "ati"
EndSection


---------snip----------

---------snip----------
Section "Device"
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
#Option "sw_cursor"
#Option "hw_cursor"
#Option "NoAccel"
#Option "ShowCache"
#Option "ShadowFB"
#Option "UseFBDev"
#Option "Rotate"
Identifier "Radeon"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
---------snip----------

---------snip----------

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Radeon"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
-------------------Snip-----------------
Cheers!

J

BTW, this output from glxinfo does not change with resolution changes-upt o 1600x1200 anyways, thast what I run at and I still have direct rendering.

Cheers,

J

i have similar problem getting some kind of direct 3d acceleration with my radeon igp320m in compaq notebook.. i'm running mandrake 10.. anyone know anything?