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Old 12-29-2004, 04:12 PM   #1
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Dri driver performance


I'm running FC3 and have a ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 [M10]. As some people might know, FC3 has Xorg 6.8 which is incompatible with the proprietary ATI driver.

So does anyone know how the DRI (dri.sourceforge.net) driver performs as compared to the proprietary? I was wondering if it's worth installing it..

Thanks
 
Old 12-29-2004, 05:41 PM   #2
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well...you might take a look here...( if all is for real ? ) :

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=271581

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Old 12-29-2004, 06:01 PM   #3
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Quote:
Originally posted by egag
well...you might take a look here...( if all is for real ? )
Exactly.

Those frame rates don't look very real, and I doubt if Slackware would have a hardware accelerator (i've never used Slack but the kernel is the same so I don't see why Slack should have any hardware accelerated ATI driver). I think he's just using the radeon driver but somehow the frame rates he got are messed up.

Thanks anyway though...if anyone else has experienced the open source DRI drivers please post!
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:07 PM   #4
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Dear egag!
Are you acusing me of being a liar?
I do not want to prove to anyone how it works! It just does. My goal was to share my experience yet not
to boast of my victories. Not that age already
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:13 PM   #5
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No no no you're not lying, just that if you search on the net you'll find that no one has been able to get the ATI driver running on Xorg 6.80 with dri enabled (it works without dri but then it's very slow, useless).

So maybe the frame rates you got were just messed up. Try running any OpenGL games. Maybe try Tuxracer?
What driver is it running? Can you post output of lsmod?
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:21 PM   #6
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Dear SlackerLX,

i would surely never acuse you ( or anyone else ) of telling lies.
i really trust the things you write, and take your word for it.
so...excuse me if i've given the wrong impression.

i wrote " if all is for real " to indicate that your computer, ( as any pc ), could be giving wrong info, in this case an unbelievable high framerate.

hope you dont't feel offened by that

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Old 12-29-2004, 06:21 PM   #7
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Code:
slackerlx@Slackware:~$ glxgears
5304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1060.800 FPS
6394 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1278.800 FPS
6426 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1285.200 FPS
6455 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1291.000 FPS
6275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1255.000 FPS
6412 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1282.400 FPS
6402 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1280.400 FPS
Broken pipe
slackerlx@Slackware:~$
Code:
slackerlx@Slackware:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
ipt_limit                856   7 (autoclean)
iptable_mangle          2072   0 (unused)
ipt_LOG                 3416   4
ipt_MASQUERADE          1304   0 (unused)
iptable_nat            15438   0 [ipt_MASQUERADE]
ipt_TOS                  984   0 (unused)
ipt_REJECT              3160   0 (unused)
ip_conntrack_irc        3024   0 (unused)
ip_conntrack_ftp        3888   0 (unused)
ipt_state                504   4
ip_conntrack           19236   2 [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat ip_conntrack_irc ip_conntrack_ftp ipt_state]
iptable_filter          1644   1
ip_tables              12416  11 [ipt_limit iptable_mangle ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat ipt_TOS ipt_REJECT ipt_state iptable_filter]
radeon                 99936   1
snd-pcm-oss            37736   0
snd-mixer-oss          12504   4 [snd-pcm-oss]
usb-ohci               19240   0 (unused)
ehci-hcd               17580   0 (unused)
usbcore                59308   1 [usb-ohci ehci-hcd]
ohci1394               24112   0 (unused)
ieee1394               42276   0 [ohci1394]
snd-emu10k1            62920   5
snd-pcm                56072   0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-emu10k1]
snd-timer              13604   0 [snd-pcm]
snd-hwdep               4804   0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd-page-alloc          6328   0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm]
snd-util-mem            1136   0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd-ac97-codec         49500   0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd-rawmidi            12740   0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd-seq-device          3888   0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]
snd                    30852   1 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-hwdep snd-util-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore               3396   6 [snd]
emu10k1-gp              1352   0 (unused)
gameport                1420   0 [emu10k1-gp]
3c59x                  25648   1
ide-scsi                9328   0
agpgart                43940   3
slackerlx@Slackware:~$
Er.. no games installed. Do not use as Gamestation
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:25 PM   #8
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Hmm. Perhaps you could try TuxRacer which is freely available at:
http://tuxracer.sourceforge.net/download.html

Its not a big game either. By the way, what video card exactly do you have?
(I guess you know, otherwise check using lspci).

thanks
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:29 PM   #9
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yip, those framerates are more what i expected.
i have a 9200se doing 750 fps with use of dri / radeon-driver.

but i never had fgrlx working so i cannot compare.....

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Old 12-29-2004, 06:34 PM   #10
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So maybe the radeon driver has acceleration for 9200. But it definitely won't do much on a 9600 or 9700.

Hopefully someone has used the open source DRI on a newer ATI card...
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:36 PM   #11
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I will install Tux and about specs

Asus A7N8X - Deluxe
Athlon XP 2400+ overclocked to 2600+
512RAM of Corsair
ATI Saphire Radeon Atlantis 9000 Pro
SB Live! 5.1
60GB ATA
80GB SATA
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:48 PM   #12
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And about amazing things, guys! They sure happen
Nobody believes me but I had my amule downloading at 213 kb/s and luckily I had time to take a shot
Take a look at amule system icon
http://eo.yifan.net/users/t/wdesborough/MyGnome.png
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:54 PM   #13
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Installed TuxRacer. runs very fast
 
Old 12-29-2004, 06:56 PM   #14
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quoted from : http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/m...tegoryHardware


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3D support in Radeons

Open source 3D acceleration is available on all Radeons up to and including the 9250 (rv280). The 7800/rv200 and below are supported by the radeon DRI driver; the 8500 through 9250 are supported by the r200 DRI driver. Both r200 and radeon DRI drivers use the radeon DRM driver.

3D support for r300 based cards (9500 and above) is only available from [WWW]ATI's binary linux driver

There's a [WWW]project to make an opensource 3D driver for R300 / RV350 / R350 based chips (Radeon 9500 .. 9800, M10). That would be especially helpful for newer PPC Laptops with Radeon 9600.
-------------

btw: tuxracer does about 150-300 fps when racing.

egag
 
Old 12-29-2004, 07:01 PM   #15
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Thank you, egag!
According to your post people with ATI should not have any problems.
That was my point exactly when I said it has to be just properly configured
 
  


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