IMHO Debian and/or Slackware are not difficult distros... they are just average in terms of user Friendliness...

one must rate Arch or Crux or BLFS as difficult to have a proper scale of user (Un)Friendliness....

See post #62.

Ubuntu could be called the best distribution of all, depending on one's definition of "best."

I love Ubuntu users, and I celebrate their love of their distribution.

Well, seems like some so called experience Linux users started thinking that Ubuntu is not Linux anymore,so it shouldn't be counted in, hah, great, keep it up, this attitude will help maintaining less than 5% of crowd further too!

Well, yes I guess we shouldn't count Ubuntu as Linux, since all it really is is Window$ running a Linux kernel. That would also argue for 1%.

He he, I understand your emotions, but what about non-technical users/home users, they would never fall in Linux users category going by your words?

Linux IS DIFFERENT from W$... trying to make it similar is plain stupid... it is like killing linux with all its differencing features... now I ask... should it still be called "Linux"...?

... someone tell me...

Think about cars, or airplanes... a car is a car... it has a car-like interface, gear control, steering wheel, brake, accelerator, etc... you do not see a car-like boat, or a helicopter-like car... interfaces although different from different brands, all share the same features... this is what makes car driving capability almost universal ( i am not talking about the legal particularities of each contry, pertaining to the act of driving )...

Now think of aircraft... they ARE different from cars... they have a different interface... nonetheless, you will still find some common stuff between the cockpit of a Mitsubishi a6m Zero, a Mitsubishi F1, a Douglas DC-3, and a Sukhoi-35... of course you will, despite being different they are all of a kind ... they are Aircraft... and piloting them should have similar actions involved... and it has... should somenone design a car-like fighter Aircraft, or a boat-like cargo airplane ( interface-wise speaking )... i think not IMHO...

Different stuff shouln't be forcibly made "equal"...

Why of course, you are right, they don't count either, so that brings it down to 0.1 % or so.

In fact, they have to use Slackware to be considered real Linux users, so that brings it down again, lets say 0.01 %.

But wait, actually, they have to never use X, they must use only CLI, so that brings it to 0.001 %.

They also have to use at most an i486 or lesser. And they have to live in a shack by the highway overpass and pirate current and internet so that's about 0.000001 %.

Not quite, I think they also have to have a small (or large) statue of RMS and Linus T in their house/shack and pray to it every day (more than once if possible) ... that brings it to 0.00000001 %.

Hey, while we're at it, they also have to be girls ... you calculate that one.

As long as it's based on Linux and mostly FOSS I would call it Linux.

Have you ever actually used Ubuntu? It's nothing like Windows. It's way more user friendly, way easier to install, and way easier to maintain.

And it looks and feels pretty Unix-like to me. If I had to describe the feel of it, I'd say, "GNOME." Which isn't so bad, if you're into that sort of thing.

I Have used Ubuntu allright... 7.10, and 8.04

It is everything that you said allright...

What i do not like...?!

easy... : the possibility that an automatic upgrade will bork some applications, have you ever tried to install k3b in Gnome...?! ( AFAIK Brasero will spoil lots od DVDs with uncompleted recording ... ) man... this is an adventure...

synaptic will trash your applications menu with kdedu, keject, k-this, k-that... afaik only kdelibs is really needed for k3b to work, plus the Qt libraries and widgets, but no sir...

Synaptic decides, you will have to "mangle" kde inside gnome...

I do not get this behaviour with less "automated" distros...

I checked in Arch Linux, and K3B doesn't depend on any other KDE apps here. But I still hate the fact that kdelibs depends on Nepomuk Strigi...

BTW, what does "K3B" mean? A always wondered.

... I do not have the faintest idea... probably the same guy who named k3b also named Nepomuk Strigi

... and he probably should not be allowed to name anything else.

...I bet nepomuk Strigi is the name of Kim Jong Il 's Dawg...

http://meowcheese.com/files/lolpics/...-my-lawnz-.jpg

How come has not Xavier come yet to get the topic on track?

Anyhow, why the tell are everyone fighting on what is Linux and what is not? I thought Linux WAS the kernel and Linus was authority to decide if a distribution will ever be called Linux distribution?