I am frankly amazed at the amount of attention we have given to what was basically a petty whine session from OP. Perhaps it's time to stop......

lol yes please do stop im quite ashamed of starting such a useless thread... mods feel free to cloase it

im thinking of using linux mint to reccomend to new users, it is ubuntu made easy(er). Newbies should check it out.

Meanwhile im using elive for now, an live cd/distro using e17 as the wm. It is extreamly well put together, with eye candy that takes your breath away. Min reqs? anything from this century, literally.

There was a possibility that it could produce something interesting... OP was, initially, prepared to defend opening statements in a sensible way.

This sort of thing can become constructive as specific complaints get examined and others weigh in.

The examination has happened, to a positive finish too... this thread should close.

Closed to save blushes. :)