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pschmitt 12-27-2018 11:11 AM

openSUSE Leap 15.1 Alpha
 
Some weeks ago I upgraded my laptop from OpenSUSE Leap 15 to openSUSE Leap 15.1 Alpha.
Everything works fine, but I get some hundred package updates every week -
last week even over 2000.
Is this normal?

sevendogsbsd 12-27-2018 01:49 PM

Alpha is an early development stage and there is a lot of development going on so, yes. Alphas are not normally something that should be used on a daily basis, unless you are testing, mainly because the system is not tested except by developers and will probably have issues.

Sauerland 12-29-2018 01:22 AM

The new (updated) rpms will be stored in the OSS Repos by replacing the older ones, so its also recommend to:
Code:

zypper dup
So it is normal to get such huge Updates.

pschmitt 12-29-2018 10:05 AM

openSUSE Leap 15.1 Alpha
 
Thanks both of you, sevendogsbsd and Sauerland!
That is not what I wanted and - I guess - my
thoughtlessness got me into this.
Is there an easy way out?
or should I just wait till Leap 15.1 gets stable?

Peter

Sauerland 12-29-2018 10:18 AM

I would install Leap 15.0.........
Is running here fine.

ehartman 12-29-2018 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauerland (Post 5942521)
I would install Leap 15.0

He already came FROM Leap 15.0, so reverting to that would be his last recourse.

ehartman 12-29-2018 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pschmitt (Post 5942519)
or should I just wait till Leap 15.1 gets stable?

Essentially it comes down to that, yes. 15.1 is in a public _testing_ phase.
From the openSUSE Portal
Code:

Leap 15.1 is currently under development in pre-alpha phase.
and
openSUSE Leap 15.1 is planned to be released in May 2019, based on SLE 15 SP1.

so it will be 5 to 6 months before it _really_ is released.

BTW: SLE is the commercial (paid for) Suse Linux Enterprise and they seem to expect Service Pack 1 for 15 by that time.

sevendogsbsd 12-29-2018 04:27 PM

When I ran Linux, it was openSUSE Leap 15 and it was rock solid. Not sure what the ".1" could bring that is a good enough trade off for stability and a smooth user experience. Having the latest and greatest is not all that, at least for me.

ehartman 12-29-2018 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd (Post 5942624)
Having the latest and greatest is not all that, at least for me.

Often the newer kernel fixes and hardware support is needed to prevent all kinds of processor security bugs (MeltDown etc) and/or newest hardware.

ChuangTzu 12-29-2018 08:45 PM

As others have stated, 15.1 is Alpha, so mass rebuilds and updates are expected, as are the risk of breakage.

Regarding what are .1, .2 releases with Leap, they are updates from SUSE (SLE), and include new kernels, new DE updates etc...
https://doc.opensuse.org/release-not...USE/Leap/15.1/

Leap follows a major release every 3-4years with minor releases every year (approx.).
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap

Sauerland 12-30-2018 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehartman (Post 5942691)
Often the newer kernel fixes and hardware support is needed to prevent all kinds of processor security bugs (MeltDown etc) and/or newest hardware.

Therefore you can install in every openSUSE Version the Kernel from different Repos (vanilla, stable .....)
No need to install any alpha or beta Distribution.

To install an alpha or beta Distribution is to help for searching for bugs.......

ehartman 12-30-2018 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauerland (Post 5942760)
Therefore you can install in every openSUSE Version the Kernel from different Repos (vanilla, stable .....)
No need to install any alpha or beta Distribution.

To install an alpha or beta Distribution is to help for searching for bugs.......

I didn't say that I recommend using an Alpha release for real.

But I would be heavily surprised if any 4.19 or even 4.20 kernel was already available as a standard package for Leap 15.0 (4.19 was released october 23 and is a LTS release, 4.20 only came out about a week ago).
SLE is reasonable OK in backporting needed updates to their release kernels, but the latest 4.19.x kernel sometimes is a must.

Sauerland 12-30-2018 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehartman (Post 5942773)
I didn't say that I recommend using an Alpha release for real.

But I would be heavily surprised if any 4.19 or even 4.20 kernel was already available as a standard package for Leap 15.0 (4.19 was released october 23 and is a LTS release, 4.20 only came out about a week ago).
SLE is reasonable OK in backporting needed updates to their release kernels, but the latest 4.19.x kernel sometimes is a must.

Standard in Leap 15.0 is 4.12 (backported from 4.14).
But you can use:
https://download.opensuse.org/reposi...able/standard/

I think 4.20 will be there in a few days.......

petelq 12-30-2018 07:45 AM

I appear to have loaded the same post twice.
Apologies.

petelq 12-30-2018 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauerland (Post 5942778)
Standard in Leap 15.0 is 4.12 (backported from 4.14).
But you can use:
https://download.opensuse.org/reposi...able/standard/

I think 4.20 will be there in a few days.......

I agree. It's already in the https://download.opensuse.org/reposi...HEAD/standard/ repo.

If the op likes his/her opensuse then reverting to 15.0 would be the way to go for now, IMO.


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