I guess we can't get too awfully picky, I mean this is a minimalistic distro...don't want it looking like redhat or anything hehe that would be ugly, SCO might sue LOL

I think java stuff can be considered heavy duty stuff ..

Microsoft makes for every thing its own proprietary solution (.net), actually not against but ms that hard, but ms goal is well to sadistic (that is to kill the existence of others ..)

Further more java has well etablated in embedded, mobile, portable devices/cards applications. I'd like slackware to be an ideal as development as well as runtime platform for java application ..

Sun has alliance with rh .., think sun should not forget to port their packages also for Slack next time ..

Is that not a good reason for mutualistic reflexive supporting ? In politic arena they look for common enemies to be united, but don't sun n slack have it .. ?

Actually sun java-sdk can also be let out or put in extra CD, but not the support. The bin-package in java.sun.com-download-site works well on slack ..

The support I meant is actually like to put all the needed libs for sun-thirdParty-colaborated-packages that only available in RPM-format like SunOneStudio, applicationServer/weblogic, ...

Just do a rpm2tgz on those will create tgz-packages but maybe without the install-scripts like those original slack-tgz-packages. That kind of script is also actually simple script e.g. for moving the extracted files somewhere on filessystem n maybe creating some symbolic links, that the easy stuff.

That can be managed by putting an whitePaper on the slackware-site .. The runtime probing experiment is actually wut I meant with the support, bcoz thing may not function caused of lacking of runtime libraries which is available in redhat but not in slackware ..

A package for Gnucash.

I looked into installing it in slack, and it looks to be a nightmare with a need to install packages from Slack 8. It's such an ordeal there's even a mailing list dedicated to installing and running Gnucash under Slackware.

Scrap Mozilla, and some of the other waste. OO.org is pretty big but if they could fit it, that'd be nice. I'd say since Slack is a champion of simplicity scrap GNOME and KDE (keep qt and gtk of course), and replace it with Fluxbox :).

Also, some preset installations might be nice. Just to save time. Along with the "full" there'd be a "minimal" where it'd be nothing but everything you needed and maybe X. And definitely kernel source :)

Scrap KDE and GNOME please.

Change it with XFCE4 and FluxBox.

(try the new XFCE4, you will be pleased).

swaret
gnucash

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Ya, me too..............

Lol 80 % of what you want is in my modified Slack cd

Gnome,Netscape and Mozilla out

Blackhaws Java included because Suns Java made Probs often
Opera and Phoenix with Java activated already also Flash 6 included, r-pppoe with gui, kernelsource, kde 3.1.3, mplayer incl codecs, kmplayer (mplayer frontend), k3b (burning), and many more oh and also nice foomatic included and wine with opengl support ;-)

I hate dependcies and i hope that Slack will never include it, because look at the fucking rpm systems with dependcies it is very bad, and i never had problems with dependcies under slack.

and what tha hell is E17 can someone give an link to it please.

greats cHarOn

out with kde and gnome....out with emacs....add kernel source....these have already been mentioned...i am just listing as i have my custom cd setup....add gkrellm....this is an awesome tool that i have not seen any distro come with...why is this?? every linux use i know uses it.....oh yeah...the only WM needed is flux....also get rid of redundant tools....there only needs to be one text editor in a distro...etc....having multiple packages that do the same thing is kind of a waste....one email client one editor one WM one......fill in the blank...what would be really cool is if there slack site had some kind of menu where you could select what packages you used and it made a custom iso for you so if you were a minimalist you wouldnt have to d/l the whole thing...that would also be nice for dialup people....

Yup. I'd have to agree with Astro on this. Being a Red Hat veteran myself, having to download only one ISO instead of three was quite refreshing. Other than that, I'd just be satisfied if Slack had nicer FreeType support (the fonts in GNOME that shipped with Slack 9 look like the same blocky ones that shipped with GNOME 1.4, just antialiased). I had to install packages from Dropline to get the FreeType and X fonts all nice and clean looking. ;)

Other than that, Slack's pretty solid and there's not much I'd like to see changed. As was stated earlier in the thread, Slack's harder to set up, but once it is, it doesn't let you down.

E17 == Enlightenment's next long awaited version (17)

I think dependencies is surely an improve, but it is maybe not easy thing to do ..

I've once downloaded actual howto and manpages from tldp.org, I got problem to upgrade it, bcoz the package of that manpages is somehow splited in 2 slackware-pkg-packages by slack, and I just don't feel secure to replace that 2 slack-packages with the man*.tar.gz from tldp.org ..

That mean to be absolutely clean one has to wait that the packages be uploaded to slack-current first .. Well the content of that 2 packages may be tracked by /var/log/packages , but am just to silly to check wut inside them n to split that manpage-tgz into 2 ..

But can live also without dependencies check ..

Answered by me self:
check that 2 packages on /var/log/packages like "ls -la /var/log/packages/man*" then use removepkg to remove the 2 man-packages. Barely install the new downloaded man*-tarball, or create a new slack-tarball of it, have to check howto do that first ..

Fluxbox. It's no big deal to drop in yourself though. As for stuff to take out, well, I leave a whole lot out anyway. Not the kernel sources though, what was Patrick thinking ? That will never happen again I'm sure.

Ethereal. Tripwire. Chrootkit. I'm sure all this stuff was added in 9.0 though, one day perhaps I'll upgrade.

add dropline

Adding fuel to the fire... ;)

If you want kernel source on the CD, I want KDE out, not Gnome.

I hope Slackware 10 (9.1?) will come with XFCE 4.

Having several security tools (somebody else mentioned Tripwire) would be good as well.

I would love it if Slackware came with several "rc.firewall" example files, so that one could study them and learn from them.

For instance:

example.rc.firewall: single machine, connected to Internet through a modem.

example.adsl.rc.firewall: single machine, connected to Internet through ADSL/Cable connection.

example.LAN.rc.firewall: gateway machine, used to connect other PCs to the Internet through ADSL.

example.PARANOID.rc.firewall: gateway machine (see above), with a highly paranoid firewall on it. Only outbound HTTP, HTTPS, POP3, SMTP allowed for instance.

As far as I know, this does not exist in Slackware... and it's a pain in the neck.

Just my US$ 0.02... :D