slackware current, typo in new rc.inet1, also is gtk3 now required for firefox?
 

There is a typo in the new rc.inet1 script the changelog say that it was updated to dhcp timeout of 15 seconds, but it seems to only have changed the echo statement for the logger, the actual timeout is still 10 seconds.

Also its seems that firefox is now built with gtk3, is this because it has to be? or is this for xfce integration?

you have right for firefox it's compiled (--enable-default-toolkit=cairo-gtk3) option in the Pat SlackBuild, it need probably gtk+3 ;)

(15 seconds should be a reasonable default DHCP timeout) in the rc.inet1 ;)

The compile line for firefox is actually correct as cairo-gtk3, that is not my problem. This is the first time Patrick has used gtk3 instead of gtk2, both options have been available for awhile in firefox, and I was wondering if now firefox is only going to allow being built with gtk3, or if this was a decision by Patrick to maybe fit better with changes in xfce switch to gtk3?

Yes 15 seconds is fine, I was just reporting that it actually wasn't changed like Patrick wanted, because he only changed it in the echo for the logger and not in the line that actually executes the timeout, which is still at 10 seconds.

firefox from version 53.x won't support gtk+2 anymore: I guess this is a test as the next versions will forcibly use gtk+3 so it's better to check if it's all ok with the switch.

Any pointers on how to tune the Gtk3 look? In particular, I'd like to switch back to "normal" scroll bar instead of this new thin one, and also my fonts in Firefox menus etc. are tiny now.

Well that sucks, but save me from bothering with recompiling, I guess theme breakage here we come;). It seems at least firefox menus still show mnemonic underline without first hitting ALT, even though gtk3 made this impossible.

As far as font change for gtk3
you can edit .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini

and change

gtk-font-name=

to whatever font and point size you want, I use Plasma 5 so not sure how that works with XFCE or KDE4

For scroll bars you will need to change your theme, if you have a theme that has stuff for both gtk2 and gtk3 they should have similar scroll bars, but if your theme is gtk2 only you will get Adwaita for gtk3, you can override this with

gtk-theme-name=

in the same settings.ini

the name will have to be of a gtk3 theme though, also theme that aren't Adwaita have a tendency to break with each new gtk3 version, though gtk are now claiming this won't happen, I'll believe it when I see it.

Thanks for the quick reply. Indeed, I fixed the font and changed the theme the way you suggested. It seems that Slackware-current has five Gtk3 themes: Default, Emacs, HighContrast, Adwaita and Adwaita-dark, but none of them seem to have "regular" toolbar with arrows, so I guess I'll have to live with the new one for while.

and with TIMEOUT 15, at this ligne, that's correct.

/sbin/dhcpcd -L -t ${DHCP_TIMEOUT[$i]:-10} ${DHCP_OPTIONS} ${1}

yes that's the line

There are some gtk3 themes up on slackbuild.org, Xfce is slowly moving to gtk3, so I assume at some point there will be more gtk3 themes in current.

GTK3 has been in the Firefox release channel for about a year and had to put the following in my ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini file to make the scrollbar function more normally.

Setting gtk-primary-button-warps-slider to false returns the normal one screen up/one screen down click behavior to the scroll bar (instead of jumping to the spot on the screen where the mouse click occurs).

Also to fix scrollbars to have arrows you can make a gtk.css in
~/.config/gtk-3.0/

in it have

*{

-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;

}

I patched this in the Firefox all.js so that the scrollbar behavior is the same as it was with GTK+ v2. Sorry, I meant to mention that in the ChangeLog.

for that looks like Pat opted to directly patch the default behaviour in the build script
EDIT: oops, beaten! :D

From an accessibility point of view it is absolutely shocking that Gtk-3 got away with those thin scrollbars. Huge titlebars, which you don't use, and tiny scrollbars, which you do use. Genius.

Thanks Pat, I should have expected you were already on top of it.

ha.

Also to add if you want up down arrows at top and bottom add this in between the brackets

-GtkScrollbar-has-secondary-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-secondary-forward-stepper: 1;

I did have some old settings that could be used to change the width of the scrollbar, but it seems these have already been changed and deprecated, in true gtk3 fashion. So will have to look around.

FYI, Firefox no longer uses my KDE4 theme except for the title bar. How is it with Plasma 5?

It sounds like Gtk-3 has been influenced by the touch screen interface.

It's no better, the kde devs can't really do what they did for gtk2, building a theme engine that can duplicate their theme, and more importantly colors and shadows, because gtk3 has not been stable api, especially for themeing, it changes and breaks on almost every release. There is a breeze gtk3 theme for plasma 5, that just trys to create the basic look of breeze in gtk3, there was an oxygen gtk3 theme that was similar, but it is totally broken by gtk3 changes, and they can't really put the time into updating it. Neither of these will follow color theme or have menu shadows, and can easily break on any gtk3 update.

It's not just for Xfce 4 compatibility, you know. GTK 3 actually has proper HiDPI support, while GTK 2 does not.

I was more wondering about whether it was worth it for me to recompile for my personal needs, or was that pointless because this was and upstream change, which it seems its is. I was just thinking it could be for Xfce, which would be fine with me and understandable, and I would just recompile. Gtk3 has HiDpi, wayland support, and maybe better font rendering, these are also good reasons to change, for me personally most of these don't matter as much as constant theme breakage, and I need menu bar mnemonic underline on all the time without having to hit ALT to see them, which gtk3 got rid of as setting, though thankfully firefox overrides this somehow.

new current ChangeLog:

(n/network-scripts-14.2-noarch-6.txz: Rebuilt.
rc.inet1: Change actual DHCP_TIMEOUT to 15. Thanks to pataphysician.)