slackware 13
 

Anybody out there who has been upgrading to new slackware versions for a long time able to give me a wild ass guess when Slackware 13.0 will be ready?

I know
 

Sure. Slackware 13 will be released... when it's ready.
At least publicly, there is no specific target date for release.

If someone needs scheduled release dates, they should consider Fedora, Ubuntu, openSUSE...

I'd scratch Fedora, they pushed out the date and it was buggy when it came out. I know first hand because I run it on my laptop. Almost aggravated me enough to try another distro trying to upgrade from Fedora 10 to 11. The quick boot and some other features make it interesting enough to keep on the laptop for now.

But there is nothing like the stability and speed of Slackware I run on this desktop.

You missed this thread?

I know, they did that many times, and it's what drove me away from Fedora, because it often results in unbearable buggyness.

new releases of Slackware are issued approximately once every six months

source: http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/s...SHqbu:mv_pc=22

So we are approximately on time for V13

I started my Linux experience with Red Hat... version 5.0 is when I really started to figure my way around it. I was turned off about the time it went from 6.2 to 7.0, because I was running into more RPM dependency issues than before.

Eventually, I made my way over to Gentoo (when Daniel Robbins was still running the show). That was a fun distro, and it worked well for a few years.... till portage broke and I couldn't fix it. Daniel was gone, and there was a lot of infighting between developers. The project lost some good people, and ebuild quality began to suffer. Kinda left me dead in the water, short of taking 3 or 4 days to rebuild everything. Sorta in a time crunch, I downloaded Slackware 10.0 and got rolling in short order. Been with Slack since then.

Even with them there's usually some delay in the schedule

It will be out sometime between now and later. :)

Advantage Slackware: No schedule, no delay. ;)

But given the recent activities in -current, Slackware 13.0 seems to be close. aaa_base has been updated to version 13, e. g.

gargamel

Is it later now? Is it later now? Is it later now? :)

Could be worth mentioning in this thread as well that tail -l 2 changelog.txt says:
Tue Jun 16 17:50:30 CDT 2009
a/aaa_base-13.0-noarch-1.txz: Rebuilt. Updated slackware-version.

Unless they pull a practical on us and release 12.3, i would guess it's not far ahead :)

Personally I'm glad they release it when they feel it's ready, rather then,"to day is the last day of the month. It's best to release it to avoid calling it 9.05" or something :P

Or more precisely, the day after the day before it's ready. ;)

It's now now, but it will be later later. :)

No...later later will be now, and now will be sooner later. :confused:

Guys! Slackware 13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check this link


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edit : Oh, sorry, I've just woken up - I must have had a very pleasant dream:)

Go back to sleep. :)

*Just a wild guess*...

Major updates already in -current:
- KDE updated to 4.2.4
- X updated to 1.6.1

I think the Slackware team might change the kernel to 2.6.30 before releasing Slackware 13.0

After that, just a week to test stability, minor updates to solve bugs if they appear... And the announcement!

Yeah,

I too think we're getting closer, niels.horn. Perhaps before the end of June. 13.0 is looking wonderful indeed.

When it is released folks let us leave our bit torrent clients open for an extended time.

I think it is an excellent idea to consider making a financial contribution to Slackware. That is, get a subscription, buy the CDs/DVD, or make a donation at the store.
This will ensure that PV and the Slackware team can continue to develop our favourite OS.

I doubt that

Any reason to doubt?
Like I admitted, mine was just a wild guess :)

I'm with Tex. I think it's a bit late in the cycle to expect any major changes such as a kernel version update. If the version number hadn't already been bumped then I might entertain the possibility, but the version bump suggests to me that we're entering "Release Candidate" time and the rest will just be bugfixes and other making it 'Ready (TM)' activity.

The Linux kernel 2.6.30 version is supposed to contain many filesystem improvements, mostly regarding the EXT4 filesystem.
IMO it would be a mistake not to ship with a 2.6.30.x kernel now that EXT4 is the default on the Slackware installer.

I'm with sahko. Lots of good stuff in 2.6.30, and I don't see going with that as any more "dangerous" than going with KDE4.

I agree with sahko & TL_CLD...
But ok, I can always compile my own kernel :)

A kernel upgrade is nothing compared with the X update or even KDE 4.2.4
I would let the dust settle a few days before rushing anything out.

Ubuntu has bitten me hard a few times over the years with major uypdates just before a rush to release by the end of the month
Pulse audio was seriously undertested.

If Pat V considers the newest "stable" kernel to be stable enough, then probably it will be included, if not, if you want it, you'll have to compile it. Personally I've found that the latest kernels even tho marked "stable" are not that stable.

Hmm. Just checked kde4.3 release schedule. 4.3.0 shpuld be there around July 28. I rememer, long time ago there were talks that due to the very good relations between slack team and kde dev team, slack 13 should be with 4.3. Thus my guess 13 will be there in the end of julu. Anyway i am running 64 bit current on my vaio and i really love it. Thanks to all the team for the excellent job. I dont even use xorg.conf anymore with my very bad ati card

PS once again my guess only.

The KDE 4.3 date may slip, or there may be show-stoppers in it. I may be wrong but I don't think Pat will wait for that and KDE 4.3 will show up in 13.1. I'll be very surprised if we don't see a release on or around 1st July (but that's just my guess)

don't beat me but I think it's early for 13, they just released new x.org and a 64bit version that we are testing only for few days (btw, it rocks!).

I am waiting for sw13 because 12.2 doesn't work fine on my new laptop (it has new drivers)
so i use ubuntu till 13 is released :)

That's a rather rare problem - just out of curiousity - which drivers precisely would you be referring to? If you miss Slackware, it's most likely fixable by upgradeing to a later kernel...

-y1

see this : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-on-hp-710621/

I've had that issue too. I bought a centrino2 laptop right when they were first released and the kernel in slack 12.1 didn't like it. Basically, the drivers for the chipset ICH10 I believe, required the 2.6.27 kernel.

Like you say it's pretty rare, and only tends to show up on very new hardware towards the end of life of a slackware release when its kernel is a little old. But it does happen.

Of course, the problem you can have is that if the kernel on the cd doesn't boot, you can't install a newer kernel (unless you have a spare machine and go to the trouble of building a customised install cd on it).

using a kernel of version 2.6.30.2 would be awesome. Like planets aligning or something.

Yeah, and be released on July 10th as a birthday present to me. :P

Well, it won't be very long . . . after the last set of updates, I get this on my slackware64-current system . . .

In my experience, one this happens with -current you're looking at a week TOPS before the release is announced. A couple of times it has been two days.

c'mon - surely us slackers aren't into astrology? The Rev Bob said "Planetary alignments are not significant, unless one of the following angles are involved: 5.2 degrees, 20.2 degrees, 83.7 degrees, 180 degrees and 0 degrees".

Even though the slackware-version was updated, Pat has yet to announce a release candidate. I would be perfectly fine with waiting a while for the inclusion of KDE 4.3 and kernel 2.6.30. It would give -current users a lot of time to beat/test on the new version of Xorg, among other things.

Personally I'm still hoping for:
- KDE 4.3
- Kernel 2.6.30
- Firefox 3.5

Meh? my comment was about the numbers in the version adding up to 13 being in line with slackware's version of 13... regardless, things that are 'aligned' are often 0 degrees away and you could say that two different numbers that are the same would have 0 degrees of difference. According to your statement, we only need one number; zero.

regarding the hardware support... i'm under impression that you can compile a newer kernel (that has the support for your new piece of hardware) and you'd get the support... is that right?

Absolutely, I do it all the time, but that's assuming your system runs well enough on the original kernel to boot and allow you to build a new one, which was the problem I had with 12.1 on that laptop... it didn't.

Well, the kernel has been changed... Not to 2.6.30 though :)

And we'll need at least one more aaa_base upgrade before Slackware 13 comes out. (*)

But with todays changes, I am growing in my belief that some more upgrades will follow before the release of 13.0 So I continue betting on the 2.6.30 kernel :)

I am not in a hurry. With the enormous changes we have seen (KDE / X) only a couple of days ago, I think it should just settle down a bit more before an official release.



(*) to change Pat's "Welcome" message to read Slackware 13 instead of Slackware 12.2

Yes, I agree~ And we have "brand new" KDE4 instead of old KDE3.5 now. Maybe some people(although not me ;) need some time time to get well with it.

I downloaded 2.6.30 this morning and built a custom kernel for Slackware64-current. Also installed from /extra the kde-compat so that I can use xconfig. I think its faster than menuconfig. I'm ready and getting very used to KDE4 - I kinda like the eye-candy. I just wish k3b was up to snuff for a custom build.

Something tells me that 13.0 will be shipping with the 2.6.29.5 kernel as of today's changelog.

If they ship with .30 kernel, we will be more up to date than Ubuntu and Fedora.

And that means... (?)

Man, what's up your butt?

Just saying.

I think Slackware is sometimes considered old, archaic by some people.

Yes usually by those that don't use it :)