Pale Moon for Slackware
 

I figured it was time to create a new thread dedicated for Pale Moon for Slackware, in honor of Pale Moon 30.0.0. As I might have mentioned elsewhere, I've been in the process of moving to a new server; so you might notice the url's I use are different.

Here is a link to the Pale Moon 30.0.0 SlackBuild; which has also been submitted as an update at SlackBuilds.org.

http://repo.schotynet.org/slackware/...alemoon.tar.gz

Testing:
GRE-RELBASE_20220310.tar.gz
Pale-Moon-30.0.0_Release.tar.gz

"As we speak," so to speak :) , I'm using the Pale Moon xz-compressed tarball and so far, so good.
https://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/
I'm sorry to see Basilisk fade into the sunset, but it looks like PaleMoon-30.0.0 is more than a suitable replacement.
:thumbsup:
The full 30.0.0 announcement can be found here, https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic...5a427c7ec267cb

ahh thanks for catching that for me. They changed the directory structure on me. Fixed.

I'm still in the process of potentially keeping Basilisk around; I was just waiting for the Platform code to settle down before I begin transitioning Basilisk over. I did, however, get official permission to maintain Basilisk.

Good to hear!
Many thanks and please keep us posted.
:thumbsup:

Now it's ok
Thanks

Thanks for all your work, khronosschoty.

Just a quick heads-up for those who have yet to switch to Slackware 15.0: this new Palemoon requires a GCC of 7.1 or newer. Build fails on 14.2 with GCC 5.5.0.

I have a gcc 9 build (I think) I could potentially support for 14.2 if anyone is interested.

I use Vivaldi but want a browser with a different engine around as an alternative.

Last time I checked uBlock Origin and NoScript didn't seem to be available for Pale Moon. What do you people use?

Can find Ublock here
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-fo...gacy-1.16.4.30

and I use ematrix instead of noscript

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/ematrix/

Thank you khronosschoty !

I just now ran `git clone` on your SBo Mirror.

Your palemoon.SlackBuild script has been running a few minutes now seems to be progressing nicely on Slackware64 15.0 + Multilib.

THANKS AGAIN !

-- kjh

Since you are a maintainer, I take the opportunity to pass on a little message (for all mainteners in fact)

From what I saw on the SBo (during our help to check slackbuilds for 15.0), only Vincent Batts does this when he has several sources to download:

put all the DOWNLOAD links on one line
instead of:
This way, you can fetch all files at once
It is said. Sorry for the noise ;-)

Thanks very much. While we're on the subject of add-ons, I don't suppose there's one for vertical tabs?

Hmmm ...

All of the SBoPackage.info files are valid /bin/sh script files.

And is perfectly valid.

so this works great for me:
HTH

-- kjh

I use NoScript 5.1.9 with Pale Moon, and it works a treat.

The NoScript developer has said that he'll keep the 5.1.x series alive as long as the browsers that depend on it (like Pale Moon) continue to receive their own security updates.

Tree Style Tabs is what I like, if I want vertical tabs

https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/treestyletabforpm

There is also Tab Mix Plus which can also be found on the Pale Moon website

Right
But this only works with a bash shell

works with korn shell as well, which is what I use.

Edit with one difference, in the korn shell you do this . ./palemoon.info; wget $DOWNLOAD
unless you source with a full path that is.

Thanks again. Vertical tabs, script blocking and ad blocking are all I need. I mustn't have looked too hard last time I checked.

:hattip:

Took me a minute to find this script.

It reads an SBo.info file and checks all the MD5SUMS for you.

Example:

Anyway, thx for your great job ;-)

khronosschoty --

Thanks !

palemoon 30 is installed on my System and it runs great.

There are no apparent errors when I ran it from the commandline in a terminal.

Now I'll see about importing all my passwords from Basilisk ( palemoon does not recognize the passwords from palemoon on my Slackware 14.2 System ).

Anyhow ... AWESOME -- no more firefox here !

-- kjh

Well, Pale Moon still can't display safeway.com, the web site of a major grocery store chain. Locks up solid. This is a known problem that has existed for years. It also has trouble with wsj.com, which it can load, but not display properly. As I visit both of those sites on a regular basis I keep another browser handy.

That's very generous; I'm sure a handful out there would appreciate that.

For myself, I just went ahead and upgraded to version 7.1 of gcc and gcc-g++. After that, it built fine, and I'm now using PM 30 on Slackware 14.2. :)

Thanks again for the build script.

Palemoon is still useless for navigating github pages after blocking the github-wc-polyfill plugin that worked fine in earlier releases (pre-29.x IIRC).

Try this one. I edited the version compatibility line and the GUID. I don't think github-wc-polyfill was blocked, its just a few variables are set for a different version; however, as far I as I know there isn't any actual incompatibility.

I also edited in about:config so that the useragent override reads like this:

general.useragent.override.github.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Linux rv:5.0) Goanna/20170101 PaleMoon/29.4.4
(I haven't updated the useragent to 30.0.0 and not sure if that would matter, it probably wouldn't, the important bit I suspect is Mozilla/5.0 (Linux part)

However, I'm not sure that is strictly needed; I'm still working out the details. I can say, tho, that github works for me after doing those necessary (and perhaps partially unnecessarily) steps.

Let me know if you try it and if it works or not -- if you still run into issues (afterwards) I'll double check everything. Thanks in advance if you give it a try, it would be nice to get anther person testing it.

Here is the link to github-wc-polyfill with the edits I mentioned above.

http://repo.schotynet.org/browser-ex...ill-1.2.16.xpi

@khronosschoty:
Thanks a lot, your edited polyfill add-on works fine!

Yes, I tried www.safeway.com from a palemoon 30.0.0 session that I started in a konsole terminal and it locked hard for me too.

I had to X-out of palemoon and eventually KDE detected the non-responding Process and killed it.

KDE however did not kill palemoon -- I had to kill the process manually. See below.

Another Site that misbehaves in palemoon is www.newegg.com ... there is a script that locks up when I scroll around on a product page and I am unable to check out.

I keep Alien Bob's chromium-ungoogled handy for sites like these.

[sigh]It would sure be nice to find one trustworthy browser that works everywhere and the way I want ...[/sigh]

-- kjh

I took a look at Safeway.com and its browser requirements are IMO a little insane. I poked around to see if I could get it to serve its website with a little less bells and whistles; but all I managed to do was get hard freezes as well.

Thanks to khronosschoty and kjhambrick for taking a look at safeway.com.
:hattip:

Vivaldi does a good job, but it is yet another chrome clone and identifies itself as chrome, and I try to avoid anything goggle, if at all possible.
:)

Does someone know why the settings icon does not appear where it should to (on the upper-right corner), at https://search.brave.com (?

Also the page https://search.brave.com/settings does not load correctly. It appears blank, except for the footer.

Not sure, but I noticed it doesn't show up in seamonkey either.

Edit: and and on that note I noticed safeway.com causes seamonkey to also hard freeze.

Thank you for this, khronos... You're a lifesaver! :)

FYI, when I try to visit www.safeway.com in Vivaldi, I am blocked. See attached.

I've never seen this before.

Here safeway.com and wsj.com work perfectly in both VIvaldi and Firefox. In SeaMoneky, wsj.com works, but safeway.com does not.
Thanks for mentioning SeaMonkey. I hadn't used it in months, if not a year or two, and glad to see Lightning is now included.

Pale Moon 30.0.1 is released:

SlackBuild:
http://repo.schotynet.org/slackware/...alemoon.tar.gz

package:
http://repo.schotynet.org/slackware/...6_64-1_SBo.tgz

(Packages in the stable directory, are targeted / compiled against, the latest stable release of Slackware)

Thanks for the heads-up.
:)
https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

compiled and upgraded to palemoon-30.0.1 and tried www.safeway.com

Palemoon 30.0.1 still locks up on safeway.com but now KDE kills the pid instead of leaving an orphan.

-- kjh

ALERT!!!
https://www.palemoon.org/

When going to download the source for v30.0.1, I did notice on the release notes page that v30 had been recalled...

I've been using v30.0.0 for several days now, and I haven't had any problems--even with the "hated" NoScript add-on. I'm now compiling 30.0.1 bug-fix release, and so far, so good. :)

In any event, unless M.C. declares that there is some critical security bug in the v30 series, I'll keep using it.


On a related topic: the safeway.com problem seems clearly to be a javascript issue. I tried safeway.com and with NoScript in place, there were no lockups. Of course, without javascript, as soon as you try to navigate beyond the front page, you can't do much...

OK, just went over to the Palemoon forums and my suspicions have been confirmed: the "recall" was due to the final falling out between Moonchild and Tobin. M.C.'s explaination/apology.

The only surprise here, to my thinking, is that this didn't happen sooner. Tobin, while obviously a talented coder, has shown himself for years to be an arrogant, loud-mouthed cunt, (as evidenced by his unprovoked attack on Eric a while back, saying that AlienBOB should "go fuck himself.")

And while this does seem to be quite a setback for the PM project, I hope that M.C. will soldier on and keep the project going. PM represents a last-gasp effort to save the web from a certain Silicon Valley behemoth, and I for one appreciate having PM as an option.

I think the truth is a bit different. Tobin can be abrasive that is for sure, but he is actually well meaning. I think Moonchild is more to blame for things, then he wants to admit. I think factors and dynamics are little more complicated then can be shared on a forum post; not to mention personal.

You make a good point. Not being privy to what went on behind the scenes, I suppose we users will never know who deserves the bulk of the blame for the current drama at Pale Moon.

However, I can't overlook the fact that Tobin went out of his way to sabotage things on his way out the door. I've just spent the last hour over on the PM forums to get up to speed, and I read Tobin's rage-quit post, and MC's response. Whatever else may have happened out of public view, I can't construe his intentionally destructive actions as "well meaning."

I don't see how he sabotaged anything, in this particular case. I was there the whole time, the way he presented it in the forum, and the way moonchild presented it in the forum, were not exactly how I would say it happen. However, moonchild's presentation of the so called sabotage, is definitely more deflection of blame. Moonchild released broken binaries and blames Tobin for it. The website isn't why we needed a Pale Moon 30.0.1 right of the bat. None of this is devastating to me, (no one is perfect) but this is the foundation of all the blame shifting. I agree with devs that, release something when its ready. Pale Moon 29 series should of remained stable branch and 30 should have been current. Excuses and blame shifting.

Anyway I'm not going to get sucked into airing out everyone's flaws, and what they did wrong. I'm just saying Moonchild is for sure the one who shares the bulk of the blame, on multiple levels.

Great news!! I really like Basilisk and hope it's around for years to come! I wish I was a programmer of some sort so I could help out...or heck, even had enough smarts to do *anything* to help out.

When I downloaded and then tried to build with these two things, I get this:

Am I also supposed to download a tarball of that old autoconf and put it in this directory, and if so, from where?

Yes, you need autoconf 2.13 tarball.

Here's a link:
http://ponce.cc/slackware/sources/re...nf-2.13.tar.xz

**Deleted**

Edit: JayByrd is correct.

Edit 2: the package is not the source, its a pre made package, the SlackBuild is like your typical SlackBuild, the download for the sources is in the .info.

Pale Moon 29.4.5 has been released.
https://www.palemoon.org/