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LuckyCyborg 10-25-2021 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 6295483)
So if I understand your statement correctly, each theme I would have to check sddm.conf in /etc to make sure that option is not there or modify it accordingly?


Then again I am forced to deal with touchscreen on hp laptops, even though I just don't want it - would be nice if the manufacturers would let you to just disable it via bios/uefi and never have to deal with it ever again; but thats neither here nor there.

There are only 4 (four) themes for SDDM. How complicated is to memorize which one has the on-screen keyboard active and which not?

I sell you cheap a hint:

I used always the default theme: Breeze and it never created me problems with the on-screen keyboard.

However, I am not sure how it will work with your 1024x768 screen from your Virtual Machine - probably the Plasma5 believes that it runs in a tablet, when it see your resolution.

Jeebizz 10-25-2021 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6295492)
There are only 4 (four) themes for SDDM. How complicated is to memorize which one has the on-screen keyboard active and which not?

I sell you cheap a hint:

I used always the default theme: Breeze and it never created me problems with the on-screen keyboard.

However, I am not sure how it will work with your 1024x768 screen from your Virtual Machine - probably the Plasma5 believes that it runs in a tablet, when it see your resolution.

Only 4 themes? So I am not able to download more themes? Which again implies I probably have to check sddm.conf each time, just to make sure the author of said theme does not try to be creative and add tablet support, that I do not have and do not need. Also my VM is running in 1920x1080............ sorry, but your hint is useless and I want my money and time back in reading your 'hint'.

LuckyCyborg 10-25-2021 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 6295498)
Only 4 themes? So I am not able to download more themes? Which again implies I probably have to check sddm.conf each time, just to make sure the author of said theme does not try to be creative and add tablet support, that I do not have and do not need.

From what /etc/sddm.conf says, the InputMethod is on General group, not in a theme, then the setup is, well... general.

Code:

[General]
# Halt command
HaltCommand=/usr/bin/loginctl poweroff

# Input method module
InputMethod=qtvirtualkeyboard


# Comma-separated list of Linux namespaces for user session to enter
Namespaces=

# Initial NumLock state. Can be on, off or none.
# If property is set to none, numlock won't be changed
# NOTE: Currently ignored if autologin is enabled.
Numlock=none

# Reboot command
RebootCommand=/usr/bin/loginctl reboot


[Theme]
# Current theme name
Current=breeze

...

Believe or not, on my boxes no on-screen keyboard popups, even I have it active, as you see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 6295498)
Also my VM is running in 1920x1080............ sorry, but your hint is useless and I want my money and time back in reading your 'hint'.

The sales are final, no refund accepted. :p

However, I bet that your VM has as setup for a input device something like touch pointer, otherwise there is no explanation.

Jeebizz 10-25-2021 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6295502)
From what /etc/sddm.conf says, the InputMethod is on General group, not in a theme, then the setup is, well... general.

Code:

[General]
# Halt command
HaltCommand=/usr/bin/loginctl poweroff

# Input method module
InputMethod=qtvirtualkeyboard


# Comma-separated list of Linux namespaces for user session to enter
Namespaces=

# Initial NumLock state. Can be on, off or none.
# If property is set to none, numlock won't be changed
# NOTE: Currently ignored if autologin is enabled.
Numlock=none

# Reboot command
RebootCommand=/usr/bin/loginctl reboot


[Theme]
# Current theme name
Current=breeze

...

Believe or not, on my boxes no on-screen keyboard popups, even I have it active, as you see.



The sales are final, no refund accepted. :p

However, I bet that your VM has as setup for a input device something like touch pointer, otherwise there is no explanation.

Ok I concede to that, VirtualBox only has the option of PS/2 , USB Tablet, or Multitouch (and it is set to USB Tablet) and honestly I never even changed or checked those settings; I will be curious at the next --Current installation if I get the same behavior if I change it to PS/2. Also this reminds me that VirtualBox has another quirk, it just doesn't seem to play nice with KDE Plasma5 anyways, I have to go in and disable 3D acceleration, otherwise each time I try to change the resolution and apply it, the screen immediately reverts back , and also out of curiosity, I tried to go into a x-wayland or even a pure wayland session, and I couldn't do anything. Yea I got a screen, but the mouse was not ...'calibrated'? That is the only word I can think of, because I would point to any menu item and it would work, even though the mouse pointer was "at the right spot" I guess, plus the screen starts to glitch. I guess Oracle has yet to implement proper x-wayland / wayland support still.

Sure the other solution is to try a different VM entirely like QEmu, but I am much too lazy to configure/learn that at the moment.

Paulo2 10-25-2021 02:10 PM

I think it would be nice if they put an option to enable/disable the virtual keyboard in the KDE Settings page for login screen.
Maybe opening a ticket at KDE asking for this.

Jeebizz 10-25-2021 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6295502)
From what /etc/sddm.conf says, the InputMethod is on General group, not in a theme, then the setup is, well... general.

Code:

[General]
# Halt command
HaltCommand=/usr/bin/loginctl poweroff

# Input method module
InputMethod=qtvirtualkeyboard


# Comma-separated list of Linux namespaces for user session to enter
Namespaces=

# Initial NumLock state. Can be on, off or none.
# If property is set to none, numlock won't be changed
# NOTE: Currently ignored if autologin is enabled.
Numlock=none

# Reboot command
RebootCommand=/usr/bin/loginctl reboot


[Theme]
# Current theme name
Current=breeze

...

Believe or not, on my boxes no on-screen keyboard popups, even I have it active, as you see.



The sales are final, no refund accepted. :p

However, I bet that your VM has as setup for a input device something like touch pointer, otherwise there is no explanation.

So I made another --Current iso, and installed it not before changing the option in VirtualBox from USB Tablet to just PS/2

After changing inittab to 4 again and choosing a login screen under sddm, I am still getting the virtual keyboard, so the VM has no bearing on this, and is solely an issue with sddm.conf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulo2 (Post 6295616)
I think it would be nice if they put an option to enable/disable the virtual keyboard in the KDE Settings page for login screen.
Maybe opening a ticket at KDE asking for this.

Or just have the sddm.conf be automatically configured by device, if notebook(without touchscreen) or a desktop - InputMethod= should be left as InputMethod=

igadoter 10-26-2021 03:49 PM

How to get plain desktop on Plasma? I mean no icons, nothing just wallpaper only?

USUARIONUEVO 10-26-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igadoter (Post 6295968)
How to get plain desktop on Plasma? I mean no icons, nothing just wallpaper only?

desktop as folder ..

marav 10-26-2021 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USUARIONUEVO (Post 6295970)
desktop as folder ..

Isn't the :

Configure desktop and wallpaper
Layout : "Desktop"
Instead of "Folder view" ?

USUARIONUEVO 10-26-2021 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marav (Post 6295971)
Isn't the :

Configure desktop and wallpaper
Layout : "Desktop"
Instead of "Folder view" ?

as folder , he have all servicemenus , as desktop he havent , then he choose.

I prefer as folder , cause i can use the right click servicemenus , probably exist a way to edit "as desktop" , an add what you want.

Plasma is very flexible and customizable.

Im my particular case i have some custom servicemenus , the for me, "as folder" is the way.

Jeebizz 10-26-2021 05:56 PM

Today's update:
Code:

Tue Oct 26 22:01:32 UTC 2021

kde/bluedevil-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/breeze-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/breeze-grub-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/breeze-gtk-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/drkonqi-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kactivitymanagerd-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kde-cli-tools-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kde-gtk-config-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kdecoration-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kdeplasma-addons-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kgamma5-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/khotkeys-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kinfocenter-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kmenuedit-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kscreen-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kscreenlocker-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/ksshaskpass-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/ksystemstats-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwallet-pam-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwayland-integration-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwayland-server-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwin-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwrited-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/latte-dock-0.10.3-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/layer-shell-qt-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/libkscreen-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/libksysguard-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/milou-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/oxygen-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-browser-integration-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-desktop-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-disks-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-firewall-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-integration-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-nm-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-pa-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-sdk-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-systemmonitor-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-vault-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-workspace-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-workspace-wallpapers-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/polkit-kde-agent-1-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/powerdevil-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/qqc2-breeze-style-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/sddm-kcm-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/systemsettings-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/xdg-desktop-portal-kde-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.


enorbet 10-26-2021 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 6295483)
So if I understand your statement correctly, each theme I would have to check sddm.conf in /etc to make sure that option is not there or modify it accordingly?


Then again I am forced to deal with touchscreen on hp laptops, even though I just don't want it - would be nice if the manufacturers would let you to just disable it via bios/uefi and never have to deal with it ever again; but thats neither here nor there.


I happen to agree. On the Desktop the virtual keyboard is an annoying pita.

enorbet 10-26-2021 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igadoter (Post 6295968)
How to get plain desktop on Plasma? I mean no icons, nothing just wallpaper only?

I just delete any icons... they are just symlinks I also make the taskbar/panel autohide. My Desktop is wallpaper only excepting a full time Conky display (I like meters) and of course the panel if and when when I mousover.

richarson 10-26-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 6296001)
I happen to agree. On the Desktop the virtual keyboard is an annoying pita.

Maybe it's just some themes? I don't remember ever encountering the virtual keyboard.

I did use it a couple of times though with my old laptop (which had a few non-functioning keys due to my spilling tea on it :) ) when I didn't have an external keyboard at hand.

So, it can be useful at times :)

richarson 10-26-2021 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 6295994)
Today's update:
Code:

Tue Oct 26 22:01:32 UTC 2021

kde/bluedevil-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
[ .. ]
kde/xdg-desktop-portal-kde-5.23.2-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.


Is it just me or are 5.23.0/1 crashier than 5.22?

This past few days kwin_x11 and plasma-desktop have been crashing, some days one, some days the other, some days both.

It only happens once or twice per day and they recover swiftly and fully, but I don't remember 5.22 and older being so picky.

And my setup is pretty standard: X11 on Intel graphics (laptop) with my TV acting as a second monitor for work@home


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