What's with these regular "I was hacked"? threads?
We get new accounts posting strange "I was hacked" threads fairly regularly, and I'm honestly starting to wonder if it's just a coincidence. I mean (hint, hint) I can't look at the post IPs.
They're all characterized by a) wild implausibility, b) refusal to seek help from anywhere other than this forum (even when people treat them seriously and advise them to take their computers in to be professionally serviced), and c) posting only about their hacking problem and then disappearing The ones I know about are: Sept 11, from "RPC" Vírus that slows down the copying of files to USB April 14, from "Cookiemon": Hacker is configuring Chrome OS on my iPhone Credit to TB0ne for compiling the links below: November 17, 2019, from "LongDuckDong_69": My LG Stylo 4 Has Been Hijacked by Remote Administrator and OS as Well as Kernel Have Been Modified August 26, 2019, from "lynxlyon2": System changes June 26, 2018, from "Lynxlyon": How do you counter a death attack June 22, 2019, from "Supermarketjedi": Can't update, upgrade or install packages on any Linux OS March 20, 2018 from "Danwilliams1989": Mounting my phone. How do I stop them. This list almost certainly isn't comprehensive, but you can already see how regular it's been since 2018. |
Here's another one from today from RPC. Looks like a sequel to the one you found.
Being attacked by a virus that does the same thing but drivers are different |
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Personally, I'd love to see the moderator close such threads, and post a 'form letter' stating that if the poster can provide actual, hard PROOF (beyond speculation), that the thread will be re-opened, or a new one could get created. But it probably won't happen, given the number of times first-few-post moderation has been brought up and shut down. And the fact that some moderators don't seem to care what's reported. I reported a spammer the other day, and the spam-link got removed, but the moderator of that forum left the spammer active...hardly worth the effort to report things when such moderators pick and choose. |
Is this an issue?
personally what I do not understand: why do you (or anyone else) post answer[s] if you think it is spam? Do not feed the troll. Put him onto your ignore list. There are a lot of threads started by a single-post user and containing several (>10) responses. Why? |
In my opinion, they are either from a single person who is trolling, or the poster(s) are either mentally ill (some sort of affliction that causes paranoid delusions) or the poster(s) are crack cocaine or methamphetamine users, both of which cause extreme paranoid delusions.
All of the threads have the same exact symptoms: a mysterious "hacker" is causing odd behavior on a bunch of the OP's computers, some of which are not even connected to the Internet or a network. Of course the "evidence" is a series of rambling, nonsensical statements by the OP that are not at all evidence but opinion. The last one even said a commercial antivirus couldn't find the virus, which of course normally means it doesn't exist, but that wasn't enough for the OP who still insisted a virus existed. Yes, these threads drive me crazy as well, but for the fact of morbid fascination, I weigh in and answer them. Sigh. I think Pan64's idea of blocking them is good. Thanks to the list from Dugan, I'll start there. "jazzy_mood" is another poster to add to Dugan's list. Multiple. threads about viruses that get on the PCs without a network connection. Added all of the user's in Dugan's list to my "ignored members" list. More will surface I am sure :rolleyes: |
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I feel like the moderators should step in quickly with such threads, as soon as the nonsensical ramblings start, and close it. The posters mentioned in this thread are great examples...I think they just want attention, and it makes them feel 'important' that they are important enough to be hacked. |
I can only partially agree with it. [These] people want to be important, yes, and also they have a problem. But the real problem is not a virus or any technical issue, but the lack of their importance. So they start a dummy conversation about something which has no any real goal, no meaning, but as you wrote will take [y]our attention. And OP will be important, because nobody else knows the details, purpose and outcome.
And you can decide if you want to play this game or not. |
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I report these things, but it rarely gets attention (to my knowledge), and when it does it's typically a 'keep on the subject' post. |
I see one originator of a similar thread filed a few complaints, which are about some regular posters who have posted jokes, or sarcasm in reply to a thread question. The OP seems to be saying, "This seems an unreasonable reply to my thread."
I understand that people believe there may be problems with a person who has initiated poor threads and perpetuates this practice. I also feel pan64's points are very applicable. My interpretation is, rather than add to a thread where you feel the OP is trolling, or asking questions and not providing helpful responses, then choose to not reply. Or do not reply further if they demonstrate that they can not, or will not, conduct a coherent discussion. My simpler form is: Quote:
I don't know what people expect here. I feel we see some amount of complaints about certain posters where people do not like their questions, maybe rightfully so. In many cases, the thread and question are not against any rules. I have, once or twice, considered a possible discussion where LQ considers revisions to the rules. Each time I inspect them, I'm rather hard pressed to offer modifications. It is an open forum and people have expressed their desire for freedom of speech, and also wish to not see over moderation of their discussions. Quote:
A side point is that it sometimes people who feel they have tenure on discussion forums do sometimes feel as if they have carte blanch to act in certain ways and feel that their actions, above newer members, need to be above reproach. I'm not addressing anybody specifically, just something I've noticed. |
Have any of you noticed the exponential rise in Twitter posts about Q and "the deep state"? People are becoming truly paranoid, about all sorts of things, but especially about the government. That phenomenon has been exploding in the past 4 years. And those paranoid people typically support the same political party. It's no surprise that the number of paranoids is growing, since the total population is growing, but the percentage seems to be increasing. I have no idea what to do about it.
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My :twocents: is that if a person is not going to listen to reasonable posts by any member, they're not going to listen to similar from a mod.
The subject has been discussed before, and it is one of the reasons why the Welcome to LQ page exists. It is rather impersonal, so I admit to not using it much these days. I feel it is the responsibility of all members to work to not allow thread discussions to degrade. Styles vary, as we all know. |
It is the interwebtubez, so one must expect opinions that vary widely from one's own. It's a scary place, and there are weird people among the population. So I expect these threads, and I just ignore them. It's not worth my time to get involved, because arguing with a pig is an exercise in futility, because you just get dirty and the pig enjoys it. Do not feed the trolls! is something one always needs to keep in mind. If you just ignore the bozos, they will go elsewhere.
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I start by considering each one carefully, then go from there. I admit, I lose patience if the stupid gets deep.
The problem is that about one time in a thousand (or two) if they say virus there might be some real malware involved. That needed investigation, and the OP often does not even understand the questions much less how to answer. About one time in a hundred (or two) if they say "hacked" there is an actual attacker trying to hack or disable their system. Rare, but it does happen and this needs investigation. It is difficult to maintain focus when you have seen 52 operator errors, 46 device failures, and two known file system flaws or bugs and you see that next "it must be a virus" message come in. But in EACH of those cases there is an opportunity to teach something, and help the OP avoid being mislead in the future. And one time or another, it might even be a virus! Someday. If you feel so sick of it you do not want to check it out, that is OK. Ignore it and some of the rest will step in. None of us is alone here. While we are not technically a team, this has many of the characteristics of team work and we can address it that way. We should! |
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