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jeremy 10-14-2003 10:31 PM

A Question for LQ Lurkers
 
I have a question for the members who visit often but don't post (and also the ones who rarely post). Is there a reason that you don't post? Is there something we could change that would make you want to post? Let me know what you think. Thanks!

--jeremy

BTW if you are a member that posts often but think you have some insight feel free to post too...

jeremy 10-14-2003 10:33 PM

BTW, yes I see the irony of asking members who don't post to post the reason(s) they don't :rolleyes:

--jeremy

rodviking 10-15-2003 01:06 AM

Never posted
 
Everytime I have a question I can find the answer somewhere in the forums already, so that's why I never needed to post.. :D

geek9823 10-15-2003 01:06 AM

I am a linux newbie, and I have lived off of this site. I know nothing. The reason I don't post is simply that I generally don't even know how to describe my problem. That or I am able to find an answer by searching the forums.

jimjacobs62 10-15-2003 01:14 AM

I feel a little intimidated since I have a very rudimentry understanding of linux. I'm still trying to understand the file structure and such. Plus I have had some success in garnering my answers from various web searches.

msogelee 10-15-2003 01:24 AM

I think that most of the people here are newbies, like me, and that dont know an answer to a question or are afraid to point into a wrong direction.

I have been working with SuSe 8.2 now for about 3 months but it is hard to use it for 100% in an enviroment where everything is windows orientated.

pe2338 10-15-2003 01:31 AM

/me thinks that the search engine is good but could be better.
It returns answers that are not restricted enough. By that I mean that a search, for example, for "NVIDIA drivers" does two searches, one for NVIDIA and one for drivers but each of the searches is done on the whole forum. Or at least that's what I observed...

This way we will have more satisfied lurkers that will become better linux users and might answer in the future...

Axo 10-15-2003 01:47 AM

Re: Never posted
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rodviking
Everytime I have a question I can find the answer somewhere in the forums already, so that's why I never needed to post.. :D
Ditto


Regards
AXO

Manini 10-15-2003 01:50 AM

Re: Re: Never posted
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AXO
Ditto


Regards
AXO

Same here, I am a noob at linux and most of my questions are already answered here, so I rarely have to post. I still have a lot of :study: :study: :study: :study: to do :rolleyes:

Back_Water_Tech 10-15-2003 01:58 AM

why i don't post often
 
:study:

I am new to Linux (less than a year under my belt). Like many of us here, I will search the forum for the problem that I am having (that someone else is also having) and see if the found solution works.

I know you guys love to help out newbies, but you are human. if you see the same questions over and over, well I would get tired of that real fast. that is why i search for the answers that i need.

For the most part, I find what I need that way. It works best for everyone if we look for an answer before we ask questions.

Besides, I like to read. Sometimes I find things that I didn't know was a problem on my machine until I read about it.

The times that i did need help, you guys were right there to assist me in my endeavors. Thank you very much.

Just remember that Linux is not win-blows. Once it is up and running right, you don't have to constantly tweak it to keep it running right!

Keep up the good work! We newbies love you for it!

:study:

computerjunkie 10-15-2003 02:37 AM

I don't post because I am new, but can usually find any prob. I come up with using either search or google or a manual, I guess I just hate being the one asking questions, feels like I'm a neusanceand bugging everyone if I post. But I love reading and learning and these are the best forums for that!!! You guys ROCK!

Balban 10-15-2003 02:42 AM

I am a newbie to Linux, I am a quiet person, and I do not want to send people in the wrong direction. All the problems I have had have all ready been posted and answered, so I have not needed to post a question.

so i am a :newbie: still :study: about Linux

Robert_hd123 10-15-2003 02:52 AM

I don't Post that often, because I am German and my English isn't
that Good. Another Reasen is, I use the "Search" key very often
and up to now I found some solutions for my questions.

Greetz
Robert

P.S. Sorry for my english ...

mausie 10-15-2003 02:58 AM

newbie here, and i signed up for 2 questions
maybe more soon.. but not like its a bad forum
it rox.. only good 1 i know about linux

robinhall@f2s.c 10-15-2003 03:51 AM

Maybe I m too impatient and/or stupid but I do find it difficult to find my way around. Mostly I seem to be told that I am not authorised to access certain parts.

ashjam10 10-15-2003 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robert_hd123
I don't Post that often, because I am German and my English isn't
that Good. Another Reasen is, I use the "Search" key very often
and up to now I found some solutions for my questions.

Greetz
Robert

P.S. Sorry for my english ...

I wouldn't apologise for your English, you certainly write it much better than a lot of people who claim it's their first language! I for one find would find it very offensive if people made you feel bad about struggling over a second language!

I've not been using Linux long myself but work in Technical support so I just take a chance when answering a cry for help, I'm sure if I was wrong someone would just correct me!

AcerKev 10-15-2003 06:09 AM

I used Linux at work (placement from Uni) but since finishing the placement have no access to a Linux machine (or money to get my Old PIII500 running as one) so am not using Linux at present (Dual Booting is far too much hassle for me).

johneb47 10-15-2003 06:21 AM

A Question for LQ Lurkers
 
I have been using Linux for over seven years and I am still learning. I am not an LQ Lurker but visit occasionally to research questions for which I do not know the answers.

When I first started with GNU/Linux, as with many other users, I spent many hours reading the documentation, searching the Internet for answers and learning about GNU/Linux. Unlike most new users I did not come from a MS Windows environment but came from the IBM OS/2 environment and therefore was not a stranger to researching questions.

I believe that the LQ forums have important roles to play in the future of GNU/Linux and while I acknowledge that a user may occasionally need answers to questions. I believe that if possible these questions should be answered by pointing the users to the appropiate documentation and leaving it for them to do the necessary research. ie be guides to help users not EXPERTs to provide answers.

Personally I object to making the GNU/Linux environment a "point and click" environment as I believe that this will give the GNU/Linux environment a reputation as an insecure working environment.

I do believe that the GNU/Linux distributors can provide a security hardened "point and click" environment but it will come at the expense of very thing GNU/Linux is known for, freedom and flexibility.

XavierOnassis 10-15-2003 06:47 AM

I'm often not sure what question I need to ask - so I research and read my books in order to ferret out what and where the problem is and often discover the answer on my own. And like an earlier poster, I don't want to be a nuisance.

desolat 10-15-2003 07:20 AM

I've posted a few times, but only when I cannot find my question already previously answered. The site is a gold mine for already answered questions.

And I have to say that this site has been an invaluable resource. This site IS the reason I have been able to stick with Linux as my sole OS, and have become more proficient at work on Solaris too. I even do most of my gaming in Linux. I go into win to play a game like once a month now.

jasonlambert 10-15-2003 07:34 AM

Reasons I dont Post:

a. Lack of time recently
b. I have my own Linux forums
c. This board is too busy
d. Im not a big fan of the vBulletin software (nothing personal, just prefer phpbb boards)
e. the adverts slow the page down
f. the adverts are really annoying
g. i dislike adverts
e. questions followed by !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, ???????????????????? + varients are annoying


No offence ment...
if you dont like the answer you shouldnt ask the question IMO :D

Jason

ebrown27 10-15-2003 07:38 AM

I am a beginner in Linux and for the time being I had just rather read all the posts and see what I can learn. I really do not know enough to ask questions.

For instance I use Mandrake 9.1 and I have WINE installed, but I have no idea how to get to it, nor do I have any idea how to get Photoshop to load into it so it is useable if I should be able to bring WINE up. Also I would like to be able to see if NoteTab Pro would run using WINE. But first I must be able to bring WINE up and then learn how to hook up an app to it. And when I have previously asked this question on linux lists the answers are so far above my understanding that they might as well be in a foreign language.
Thanks
Ed

Munkur 10-15-2003 08:03 AM

I agree with rodviking. The answers to my questions can already be found in linuxquestions database.

drgowans 10-15-2003 08:59 AM

As has been said, I usually can find what I need by searching. In addition, I wish fewer people would post _new_ threads and more people would post by answering threads. There are so many new threads that I can't even hope to keep up. In addition, it would be nice if people who do post did a little investigation into their issue before posting, and provide more information on their problem. It is very difficult to respond to lazy posts - but those with log files or configuration files - those give you something to go on.

Linux is vast and complicated. Most people just don't know the answer to a lot of these posts off the top of their head, and I don't want to go do the reasarch for those posting...

CyberLord_7 10-15-2003 09:44 AM

I'm basically like most of the infrequent posters. I'm relatively new to Linux and find that my questions are very rudimentary and have already been asked by someone else whithin the last week.
Most of my posts are (almost) answers to others who have asked a question that I have seen the answer to earlier. I simply direct them to where I think they can get an answer.

WhO_KnOwS 10-15-2003 09:49 AM

I usualy don't post because all I need to know was asked and answered before, so a normal search will find me the needed information.

TuftedPuffin 10-15-2003 09:50 AM

My reasons are very similar to many of those posted already:

1) have been really too busy of late to monitor forum
2) I'm only a part-time linux user, have a long way to go, and don't feel comfortable offering solutions when I don't know the answer.
3) Often can find answers I need by searching.

On the other hand:
1) I don't mind the ads. Gotta pay the bills somehow.
2) New threads vs replying to old threads is mildly annoying, but lazy posters are to be expected on a user-help type of board.
3) I generally like the crowd here, both as a group and as individuals. Busy usually means alive or even vibrant, and the folks are usually pretty friendly.
4) There's just an awful lot of good info here! :D


Suggestion:
Perhaps newbies or lurkers should encouraged to post a simple "Thanks!" on the tail of a thread they found useful? Would that be something that you'd find gratifying, or just annoying? If it's something you do want to do, it could even be implemented as a script - ask the searcher if they found the thread useful, or something. Then it wouldn't even have to be a post, but could be stored as a counter that would be useful in ranking future searches.

*slap* Sorry, getting a little out of scope here... ;)

ceedeedoos 10-15-2003 10:27 AM

not to say I'm a "lurker", I posted some stuff before, but this is how I feel/see it:

Question wise, I'm too focused on solving things myself, that before I would ask a question, I'd need to be very desperate. Also I found out that when I posted a question in the past, I found the answer within half an hour after posting the question, so I figured I'd better have a longer search before I'd post questions (no need to waste someone's time when the answer is already somewhere on this site / google...

Answer wise, I'm not always 100% sure about the answers I would give. Since I always search the answer to my problems myself (I keep a log so I can relatively easy retrace my steps nowadays), the solutions aren't always the prettiest :) I used to run "setxkbmap be" every time I started X to get my keyboard setting right (it was only after answering this as a solution to someone else that I saw the stupidity of doing that all the time, and dug deeper to discover the setting in XF86Config)

That sums it up for me ;)
but now that I feel more comfortable around the linux-environment I feel like I might post more adequate responses in the future ;)

asb 10-15-2003 10:37 AM

again, answers to my questions abound. And I don't much trust myself with answering other peoples questions yet.

theloneranger 10-15-2003 11:02 AM

Really Don't know enough to ask questions..

GurupuNana 10-15-2003 11:18 AM

Aside from all of the answers that have been submitted so far, I have two of my own:

1. If I can't find an answer here, it's faster for me to find an answer in Google than to wait until someone answers my question.

2. I've seen the nasty response that people get if they ask a question that's already been answered. If I missed an answer that was already posted, I just don't think I could handle that type of abuse. :cry:

-GurupuNana

UddUnderline 10-15-2003 11:26 AM

Never post any reply
 
:D Like other newbie, most of my problems have been already answer and I need to do more experience and reading to be able to give others some interesting reponses :D

badgers 10-15-2003 11:49 AM

I am new and don't have many questions that can be answered here.
I have been reading the How-To's to get enough info to ask structured questions. I only posted when I was having install troubles.

I search here a lot and some of my basic stuff has already been answered so there is no reason to ask again
:newbie:

Paulox 10-15-2003 11:49 AM

Hi,

I don't post very often because it's very difficult for me to find somebody that faced before issues on such material.

I am working in an Industrial PC manufacturer and usually I use Linux on material that is not very common for Linux users.

I use LinuxQuestions as clues to find my solutions because even if my equipment is different, the techno is similar and the chips used also.

Meanwhile, I used to go all around the Web to get a solution and today LQ is my first choice for search (after Google to be honest).

Thanks a lot for this wonderful website.

Rgds,

Paulox

trickykid 10-15-2003 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jasonlambert
Reasons I dont Post:

a. Lack of time recently
b. I have my own Linux forums
c. This board is too busy
d. Im not a big fan of the vBulletin software (nothing personal, just prefer phpbb boards)
e. the adverts slow the page down
f. the adverts are really annoying
g. i dislike adverts
e. questions followed by !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, ???????????????????? + varients are annoying

Let me clarify and comment on some of these:

a. and b. - I can see lack of time since you have your own forums.
c. - Really, what's wrong with a busy forum. What are you going to do if your's gets too busy, shut it down or something.. ;) I like busy boards, more members, more information shared and lots happening.. and so on..
d. vBulletin, well it is based off of it but Jeremy has hacked so much into it, I wouldn't necessarily say its vBulletin any longer, only based off of it...
e. Really, I don't have any problems with the ads currently..
f. They can be annoying, but hey, if they help pay the bills.. who cares.
g. I don't like them either myself.. but see my reason on f.
e. Very annoying but hey, easily ignored and you can skip over.. We can't monitor everything and that's just being too picky in my own opinion.. I don't care if it has !!!!!!!! and so on.. as long as it has a good title with it that describes the problem to me..

Regards...

ebrown27 10-15-2003 01:03 PM

How do I search the data base?
 
I want to search the data base or archives for posts on how to use WINE and how you get it to open the Windows Programs like PhotoShop. But I find no archive listing, no data base listing or topic or subject listing. So how do I seach for information?
Ed

strestout1 10-15-2003 01:08 PM

I really haven't been on this site in quite a while, though i was here quite often when i first started using linux...i just haven't really had any trouble lately setting anything up or working with my system.

jeremy 10-15-2003 01:15 PM

Re: How do I search the data base?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ebrown27
I want to search the data base or archives for posts on how to use WINE and how you get it to open the Windows Programs like PhotoShop. But I find no archive listing, no data base listing or topic or subject listing. So how do I seach for information?
Ed

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/search.php

--jeremy

jeremy 10-15-2003 01:16 PM

Thanks for the responses so far. Glad to see that most reasons do not have to do with a deficiency in the site. Keep the comments coming!

--jeremy

akolff 10-15-2003 04:18 PM

I spend less and less time online. But, when I come on a thread that I have some expertise in I do weigh in.

Some times the threads seem to follow somwe amazing rabbit trails.

This is this is the only Linux board I use.

jasonlambert 10-15-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trickykid
Let me clarify and comment on some of these:

a. and b. - I can see lack of time since you have your own forums.
c. - Really, what's wrong with a busy forum. What are you going to do if your's gets too busy, shut it down or something.. ;) I like busy boards, more members, more information shared and lots happening.. and so on..
d. vBulletin, well it is based off of it but Jeremy has hacked so much into it, I wouldn't necessarily say its vBulletin any longer, only based off of it...
e. Really, I don't have any problems with the ads currently..
f. They can be annoying, but hey, if they help pay the bills.. who cares.
g. I don't like them either myself.. but see my reason on f.
e. Very annoying but hey, easily ignored and you can skip over.. We can't monitor everything and that's just being too picky in my own opinion.. I don't care if it has !!!!!!!! and so on.. as long as it has a good title with it that describes the problem to me..

Regards...

With regards to c), i think is hard to get into a community after it has really kicked off, and it is easy for a lot of posts from newcommers to get overlooked etc because there are simply so many of them.

With regards to e,f,g, i understand the bills have to be paid for somehow... ;)

The 2nd e :scratch: ... your proberly right.... From past experiences, a question followed by a load of exclaimation marks/question marks normally means some lame 12 y/o is trying to run a script against hotmail.com and expecting to see a scene out of the Matrix as hotmail.com falls into his control... only its not working, and that is what is question is about... Ok, maybe thats not the case here, but everytime i see a post like it, im reminded of the prats that have cloged up some of the better security security boards / mailing lists ive been a part of in the past...

No offence ment btw....

I'll proberly start posting a bit more over here... i suppose its easy to knock it until you REALLY try it...

G'Luck, maybe i'll see you around :)

Jason

bvanemon 10-15-2003 08:34 PM

Can usually find an answer in the search. But it would help, if the forums were broken down a little further, I'm using SuSE 8.2. There are times I've read answers and really have no clue what was said. But on the plus side this is best Linux forums I belong to. I'm not afraid to hurt the machine even if I mess up to the point of a reformat and reload. I had to due it enough with Windows.

johnruss 10-15-2003 08:45 PM

I would personally rather not wait for a reply if the answer already exists

joelil 10-15-2003 10:03 PM

Ditto
 
The same here i find the answer elsewhere here. The problem is with the new to the OS when you ask a question you get that has already been answered. So why ask when you already know the answer is the answer is posted elsewhere

VoodooAlien 10-15-2003 10:11 PM

I have to echo a few things that have already been said...
1) I'm new here on LQ and I'm still learning so mainly the forum has been a research treasure trove.
2) I generally prefer to try and exhaust my searching before posting - especially in an established community - so that I'm not rehashing a dead thread for the 800th time.
3) back to #1...I find a new perspective on the challenge I'm currently working on, go back and try it, come back and read more, so on and so forth...ultimately, when I can't seem to make headway (or make install :) ) with my issue, I'll post.

:newbie:

KMcD 10-16-2003 05:32 AM

I'm a newbie too. Only ever posted to ask questions if I couldn't already find the answer by using the search. I don't know enough about Linux yet to be of any help to anyone and hence don't post very often

MrSmee 10-16-2003 03:54 PM

Why I post the way I do
 
I am definitely a newbie..... I've been playing at Linux for nearly 9 years, but have never actually "worked" with it......... There was always some reason I'd go back to MS, recently because I was too lazy to find an answer.... previously it (7 or 8 years ago) it was because I had no access to forums like this, or even newsgroups.... But, because of LQ, and the plethora of questions, and people to answer them, I've been able to use Linux consistently for about six months now and haven't looked back yet. I posted quite often in the beginning, but now I am learning to use the man pages and HOWTOS to find my answers... which is probably what I should have been doing all along. I do enjoy browsing the questions and offering insight or advice, when I feel reasonably sure I know the correct answer, because as much as I hate getting bad advice, I hate giving it even more. So, there is my reason for not posting very often..... I've learned to RTFM, and am still not good enough to quote the manual to someone else......

Thanks to all those who've answered my posts, and to the forum maintainers for providing this

Smee

Caysho 10-17-2003 12:25 AM

I'm a tech/helpdesk, so I'm naturally predisposed to researching the problem myself, if I can, before posting a question. I haven't posted a question yet, but I did post a when I was successful back when I was using Red Hat and getting the nVidia driver to work (at least a year ago).

I know I'm a newbie to Linux, but I've been troubleshooting stuff for a few years, and one thing I don't like to see is someone who hasn't done some research themselves, and/or don't post enough detail (more detail is better than less, even if you think it might be useless).

time constraints are the one main reason I don't do more.
that and getting a feel for what really screws up a linux install (I recently removed glibc when I was tired via the package manager :rolleyes: that won't be happening again :D ).

fatbaldbob 10-17-2003 03:22 AM

I'm still a bit too new to Linux to answer most people's questions, and spend most of my available free time on the 'net trying to answer my own!

I now have (thanks in part to this forum) a linux firewall (Smoothwall) and a Redhat 7.3 webserver running from my garage (coolest place in the house - also don't need to listen to the fans whirring!)

I have recently installed Mandrake on my laptop, so as to become a more "full time" Linux user - although I have a few teething problems with my 'net connection....

Hopefully quite soon I will be able to help out more (I have already helped a few people....I think!)

Keep up the good work with the site - don't think I'd have got this far without it!

:)

fatbaldbob 10-17-2003 03:22 AM

I'm still a bit too new to Linux to answer most people's questions, and spend most of my available free time on the 'net trying to answer my own!

I now have (thanks in part to this forum) a linux firewall (Smoothwall) and a Redhat 7.3 webserver running from my garage (coolest place in the house - also don't need to listen to the fans whirring!)

I have recently installed Mandrake on my laptop, so as to become a more "full time" Linux user - although I have a few teething problems with my 'net connection....

Hopefully quite soon I will be able to help out more (I have already helped a few people....I think!)

Keep up the good work with the site - don't think I'd have got this far without it!

:)


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