Well, there's Old English which was mixed heavily with early German. By the time of the Middle English of Chaucer, A LOT of French had been mixed in by William the Conquer through the Norman (French) Invasion of England. An easy example of how much Geman is in Enlish, if you read Chauscer, he uses the German "Ich" instead of the English "I." A good example of French in English is when you discuss meat. There is no English word for the meat of a Deer, though your probably famailar with calling deer meat venison, a French word.

If you think about it what was the original "English language"?

When you consider how many times England has been invaded the furthest back I can think of is Gallic, though I'm not sure if that would qualify except I thought it was spoken by the Celts who were settled in Britain if my history is correct (not always true I'm afraid)...

Funny how I'm British and I don't know my own history that well lol

Well when your history goes back before the written language, then its a bit hard to keep track. Next year Virginia celebrates her 400th birthday, Needless to say its hard to remember all 400 years of Virginia, much less a thousand years of enlish / pre-english history.

Well think of all the French and English there is in German. Engagement (pronounced ongoshmon), cool, super, total, never mind all the technical terms...

Hmmm any linguistics in this forum? lol

I'm always learning pointless information about words and phrases myself, even read half a dictionary on it :D... well better that then drugs I suppose lol

Your talking French right? Because that is not how Germans would say it.

Well It's pronounced a bit different then the way I spelled it, but it is somewhat similar. I think it's pronounced almost the same way as in French. But I'm not gonna bet on that.
I have German, Spanish and Guarani as subjects at school and at home I speak English with my family and a German dialect called Plautdietsch with friends. It's kinda weird the way we talk sometimes, all mixed up.
Ech woa nu to the house gone and I'll get the moto... You get the Idea. :)

I saw a program last night that said britain hasn't been invaded in over 900 years, now by that I think they mean a foreign army setting foot on the british mainland. Not that we haven't been in wars and such like, also that doesn't account for warring between the countries within.

Oh and gallic refers to the french due to the gallic region, i.e. asterix the gaul. What you were thinking of was gaelic, spoken by scottish celts which is very similar to Irish and both are more distantly related to Welsh. Thing is though all languages steal bits from each other and if you trace back far enough you often end up at latin.

Oh and more evidence for the German connection....
Thou hast meaning you have is similar to du hast which is you have in german.

Smug mode off

Well if your talking about the Battle of Britian during WWII that dosen't count either.

Thats not totally true, but for most europeans it is.

I got in trouble once in German class for writting "du hasst" instead of du hast. lol

Hmmm, fraz I noticed a few errors with your use of grammer :tisk:

Well you can see I didn't do well in history class lol.

Though I was talking about further back then that, as in the Normans, Vikings, etc.

So by my count that's at least three different languages that have influenced the British language.

One interesting source of information I found was this link.

Almost like been back in school. Ah to be young again...glad that's over! :D

Wow! This is one of the most off topic branches I've ever seen! :D

Anyway, one thought on the original topic...

nVIDIA are certainly going to do well out of this... and it's the first time I think that I've ever seen anyone try to tell me that the fact that some software will require some expensive new hardware (albiet in a very slightly less direct way) is a good thing ;) (from my point of view I mean) http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_main.html

I quote:

:rolleyes:

And then:

Oh, you don't say? Heh ;)

I can't say I really blame them for wanting to capitalise on this undoubted oppurtunity... But it is sort of amusing.

Thanks for bringing up back!

That brings an interesting question to mind. Are current desktops like KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc. CPU dependent or GPU dependent like the Windows is supposed to be? It seems to me they are all CPU dependent. If I'm right is there any plan to move Linux desktops to a GPU dependent world? Or, by chance, is that not a good idea?

looks like we've gone full circle and are back at the looks vs resources argument again. If you think about itmost of the time your GPU is idling why not use it for a little bit of niceness. what I can't understand though is the heavy resource consumption elsewhere.

if Novell's XGL develops and gets to a stable level, it think that could be the future standard for any desktop-based linux distro and laugh at Vista's Mac-like interface, personally I would love to see it soon on my computers :D

Though looks like Kororaa, the gentoo based live-cd distro sporting XGL, was caught with the pants down... probably stopping the live-cd proyect :rolleyes:

So what else do they want them to do? Never fully implement XGL anywhere because they can't use the full drivers?
Personally I'd rather have my devices work than push development back ten years by hacking graphics cards and writing our own drivers that can't catch up to brand new cards in time. Naturally it would be better if the drivers were open-sourced but we can't push our luck here. This is stupid. We're lucky that NVIDIA and ATI have spent good money on developing excellent drivers for an operating system hardly anybody uses.