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trist007 01-05-2010 08:10 PM

Thinking about switching to AT&T DSL and have a question about DSL modem...
 
I currently have Time Warner Road Runner and on avg I get about 3.0 Mb/s down and 250 Kb/s up. I was told that the DSL central office is within 6000 ft of my residence. They boast that I could get up to 6.0 Mb/s down and 765 Kb/s up. I'm just hoping for about 4.0 - 5.0 Mb/s and at least 500 Kb/s up.

However, my dad has DSL. We had a linksys router attached it to it. I remember having problems where the DSL modem's firmware would conflict with the linksys router's firmware. Is there a way to deactivate the firmware on the DSL modem so that the router's firmware could do all the port forwarding and other administrative tasks? Or does it depend on which type of DSL Modem I get?

Should I go for it?

craigevil 01-05-2010 08:28 PM

the 2wire modem from att is a also a router, the one I have is a wireless/wired router/modem with 4 wired ports, supports up up to 10 pcs. No need for a second router.

trist007 01-05-2010 08:29 PM

Thing is, I got open ddwrt on my router. I would prefer that over the 2wire firmware.

damgar 01-05-2010 08:49 PM

Just an aside from someone that's done a lot of HSD installs, CHECK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS that are using AT&T to see what they are actually getting if you plan on signing any contracts. Generally cable will be faster than DSL although that is a VERY GENERAL statement. Unfortunately TWC isn't the best company to deal with in my experience, but that's off the subject. Best of luck.

lleb 01-05-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trist007 (Post 3815542)
I currently have Time Warner Road Runner and on avg I get about 3.0 Mb/s down and 250 Kb/s up. I was told that the DSL central office is within 6000 ft of my residence. They boast that I could get up to 6.0 Mb/s down and 765 Kb/s up. I'm just hoping for about 4.0 - 5.0 Mb/s and at least 500 Kb/s up.

However, my dad has DSL. We had a linksys router attached it to it. I remember having problems where the DSL modem's firmware would conflict with the linksys router's firmware. Is there a way to deactivate the firmware on the DSL modem so that the router's firmware could do all the port forwarding and other administrative tasks? Or does it depend on which type of DSL Modem I get?

Should I go for it?

that has everything to do with the DSL provider installing a ROUTER and not a MODEM. a modem is just like the old 56k dial up days. it connects, it authenticates, it passes traffic. what more and more Telcos and ISPs are installing are ROUTERS to monitor remote and control the EU network. this is bunk IMHO. if they sell you a contract with a MODEM, then damn it install a bloody modem with nothing more then what a MODEM does.

if you replace the DSL router with a MODEM the problem at your dads will be solved 99.9% of the time.

one of the easiest ways to check if you have a router instead of a modem is to look at your workstations IP. is it a private IP (192.168.x.x or 10.0.x.x or something like that) then it is a ROUTER and not a modem. ask to have it replaced with a pure modem no routing, you will install your own router if you wish those capabilities. then put up a cheap SoHo router or build an IPCop firewall/router.

trist007 01-05-2010 09:55 PM

What's the EU network, why do they want to monitor and control it? How much does a dsl modem run? So if they give me a router and i replace it with a modem it should work fine? Doesn't the router have a unique MAC that is necessary? or do you just need an email/password to authenticate?

lleb 01-06-2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by trist007 (Post 3815614)
What's the EU network, why do they want to monitor and control it? How much does a dsl modem run? So if they give me a router and i replace it with a modem it should work fine? Doesn't the router have a unique MAC that is necessary? or do you just need an email/password to authenticate?

EU = end user, that would be you.

why do they want to monitor, simple so they can bill you more for it. i just helped a friend with this exact situation (the one you dad is facing) with Bellsouth.net selling a router as a modem, now her wifi router does not work. real simple to diagnose too. when she plugs directly into the "modem" she pulls a private 192.168.x.x IP address. that is IMPOSSIBLE unless her modem is really a router.

no, just replacing the router with a modem will not work. first off you need to know if the telco/ISP is running PPPoE or PPPoA, then after you know that and purchase the correct modem/router you will have to call your telco/isp and register the MAC address of YOUR modem/router with them before it will function properly. that is if they are even willing to support 3rd party hardware and many telcos/isps will not.

you need all 3. the MAC/user name/pass word in order to connect and the user/pw are only needed for PPPoE not PPPoA as that only requires the MAC address of the hardware.


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