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rupeshforu3 08-27-2014 10:38 AM

Which is the best laptop for programming Linux
 
Hi I know that this is not the right place to ask the question below but still I am asking because only the Linux professionals like you can suggest the right.

As I am bored with the behavior of the present laptop I want to buy a new laptop.

The issues I faced previously are below

http://forums.opensuse.org/showthrea...oning-properly

http://forums.opensuse.org/showthrea...graphic-card-s

Also the system crashes frequently.

As I want to learn linux programming I want a laptop which provide best performance and highly compatible with Linux.

As I don't want to watch movies or something else can you suggest which is light weight, less screen size and cheapest.

Regards,
Rupesh.

TB0ne 08-27-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rupeshforu3 (Post 5228144)
Hi I know that this is not the right place to ask the question below but still I am asking because only the Linux professionals like you can suggest the right. As I am bored with the behavior of the present laptop I want to buy a new laptop.

The issues I faced previously are below. Also the system crashes frequently.

If these are the same issues you posted about here, you haven't yet answered the questions about other user ID's, or whether you rolled back the graphics driver changes you made. Both were suggested, but you didn't acknowledge you tried them, or what the results were. And in that thread, you said you had JUST purchased a laptop.

Buying a new laptop won't make your problems disappear..you will be left with other problems, same as with ANY computer. Unless you work through them, you'll have them. If you don't like Gnome, try another desktop environment...KDE is one, and there are many others. The problems you say you're 'bored' with appear to be the result of what you've done to the system. Don't like openSUSE? Load another distro.
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As I want to learn linux programming I want a laptop which provide best performance and highly compatible with Linux. As I don't want to watch movies or something else can you suggest which is light weight, less screen size and cheapest.
There are MANY laptop buying guides you can find on the Internet...there is no 'best' laptop, and there is no such thing as "Linux programming". There is just PROGRAMMING, and the actual hardware has almost NOTHING to do with it...the editors, libraries, compilers, etc., are all Linux based. You can easily write programs for ARM devices, Android, and Windows on a Linux system.

Pick pretty much any laptop you'd like, that has the features you want, at the price you want to pay. Load any distro...there will be NONE (including Windows), that work 100% perfectly, with zero 'crashes' ever.

rupeshforu3 08-28-2014 10:09 AM

Compare how you have answered and how other people have answered. You said that there are many laptop buying guides can you specify some of them. I think that the worst laptop I have seen in my life is the one which I have at present. I have not bought it by myself and it was gifted by someone.

The message I have posted in your forum I have also posted the same in opensuse forums and I am providing the link

http://forums.opensuse.org/showthrea...gramming-Linux

I know that you are my perfect guru but the one I don't like from you is always saying "you have done a lot of mistakes previously"

TB0ne 08-28-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rupeshforu3 (Post 5228720)
Compare how you have answered and how other people have answered. You said that there are many laptop buying guides can you specify some of them.

You can go to Google and look them up for yourself.
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I think that the worst laptop I have seen in my life is the one which I have at present. I have not bought it by myself and it was gifted by someone.
Then you really should consider being grateful that someone GAVE YOU a laptop that works. Again, if you're having problems with it, you should work through them, rather than (mistakenly), thinking that a new laptop will somehow magically fix your problems. It won't. You're having problems because of a corrupted user...since you didn't answer the questions in your other thread, we can only speculate, but the indications are there. And again, there are MANY different desktop environments besides Gnome. Try another.
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The message I have posted in your forum I have also posted the same in opensuse forums and I am providing the link
http://forums.opensuse.org/showthrea...gramming-Linux
Not going to chase down your questions in other forums; either post them here, or get answers there.
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I know that you are my perfect guru but the one I don't like from you is always saying "you have done a lot of mistakes previously"
You don't ever seem to read/understand/acknowledge what you get told. You don't answer questions when asked. So don't be surprised when people point these things out.

People will be happy to help you, but YOU need to play a part in things, and understand what people are telling/asking you. Doing the same things over and over is frustrating.

normanlinux 09-07-2014 11:42 AM

If yo are serious about programming then your requirement for 'less screen size' doesn't make sense. Having plenty of screen real estate is a benefit for software development. Why do yo consider your present laptop 'the worst laptop I have seen in my life'? Also, since you want to use it for software development there is no need to enable the AMD card. My laptop has both an AMD with 1GByte RAM and the built-in Intel. I have not had cause to use the AMD card - especially as the on-board Intel uses less power.

Shadow_7 09-07-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by normanlinux (Post 5233901)
If yo are serious about programming then your requirement for 'less screen size' doesn't make sense.

So true. I've been looking for laptops with dual displays (vertical). Which basically doesn't exist outside of the DIY realm. There is one that's side by side, but almost $3K and out of stock/production. There should be a decent arm laptop out by 2015. And probably ridiculous battery life (for a laptop). Plus not charring your lap while powered on.

normanlinux 09-07-2014 12:02 PM

@Shadow

I occasionally plug a large external screen into my 17" laptop, but to be quite honest most of the time I can't be ar***

I *do* need to use an external screen for serious photo editing, though, as the la pop screen varies so much depending on screen angle and viewing angle.

---------- Post added 07-09-14 at 12:02 ----------

la pop?

laptop!

rupeshforu3 09-11-2014 10:19 AM

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Hi I am responding too late to the current thread as I have not watched it.

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Why do yo consider your present laptop 'the worst laptop I have seen in my life'? Also, since you want to use it for software development there is no need to enable the AMD card. My laptop has both an AMD with 1GByte RAM and the built-in Intel. I have not had cause to use the AMD card - especially as the on-board Intel uses less power.
I have used two distros on this laptop one opensuse 13.1 and Debian wheezy 7.0.0 . At first I used opensuse and I was not satisfied with it's performance and so I have used Debian and at present the problems I am encountering frequently are

1) when I turn on the system before kdm is loaded a blur screen appears of which screenshots I am providing as attachment
2) The system hangs inadvertently most I have noticed is when I click the shutdown button the xserver stops and login prompt appears in a blank screen then no key pressed is displayed and so I switch off the system.

On running the command glxinfo grep render I am getting output as the string containing GL_AMD_DRAW_buffers_blend.

On running the system I am getting maximum battery backup of 1.5 hours so I think by running amd graphics it is eating my battery.

I think that 14 inch laptop is easy to carry and costs less. I am new to programming so at present I am not concentrating on graphics.

I don't mean that Linux is not good but even windows8 is not working properly on the same laptop.

Germany_chris 09-11-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rupeshforu3 (Post 5236236)
Hi I am responding too late to the current thread as I have not watched it.



I have used two distros on this laptop one opensuse 13.1 and Debian wheezy 7.0.0 . At first I used opensuse and I was not satisfied with it's performance and so I have used Debian and at present the problems I am encountering frequently are

1) when I turn on the system before kdm is loaded a blur screen appears of which screenshots I am providing as attachment
2) The system hangs inadvertently most I have noticed is when I click the shutdown button the xserver stops and login prompt appears in a blank screen then no key pressed is displayed and so I switch off the system.

On running the command glxinfo grep render I am getting output as the string containing GL_AMD_DRAW_buffers_blend.

On running the system I am getting maximum battery backup of 1.5 hours so I think by running amd graphics it is eating my battery.

I think that 14 inch laptop is easy to carry and costs less. I am new to programming so at present I am not concentrating on graphics.

I don't mean that Linux is not good but even windows8 is not working properly on the same laptop.

That's because you haven't gone through any of the power management processes yet

rupeshforu3 09-11-2014 12:23 PM

Can you answer why the screen blur occur and why the system hangs frequently. The point for which you answered is not the main issue for me.

TB0ne 09-11-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rupeshforu3 (Post 5236307)
Can you answer why the screen blur occur and why the system hangs frequently. The point for which you answered is not the main issue for me.

Yes..these have been answered before, but you have IGNORED THE ANSWERS:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...st-4175490317/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ps-4175515378/

AGAIN: You botched the installation of openSUSE 13.1, and said point-blank that you weren't going to reload it, because it was 'tedious'. If you're not going to fix the errors, answer questions when asked, or post back telling which suggestions you tried and what the results were, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING anyone here can do to help you.

Again, if you think new hardware will magically fix your problems, you're wrong. Get whichever laptop you want, and good luck.

rupeshforu3 09-12-2014 04:47 AM

For the first thread I have replied in itself and the second thread I have created 8 months ago and the solution to that problem was in yast software manager select all installed packages and select update unconditionally.

Well suppose I choose opensuse 13.1 then can you suggest how to make work gnome favourite menu works properly and how to disable amd graphics.

I think that while performing any serious work and if the system doesn't work it may be horrible and so I decided to choose a new laptop.

TB0ne 09-12-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rupeshforu3 (Post 5236713)
For the first thread I have replied in itself and the second thread I have created 8 months ago and the solution to that problem was in yast software manager select all installed packages and select update unconditionally.

...which didn't/won't correct the errors you said you had at installation time. You didn't fix the problems, you made SOME of the symptoms go away, and ignored the advice you were given.
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Well suppose I choose opensuse 13.1 then can you suggest how to make work gnome favourite menu works properly and how to disable amd graphics.
We DID suggest things, asked you to try another user, asked what results you were getting, etc., but you DID NOT RESPOND to those questions. AGAIN: You had a botched installation, and until you go back and perform the 'tedious' re-install (and do it CORRECTLY), things will not work correctly, period.
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I think that while performing any serious work and if the system doesn't work it may be horrible and so I decided to choose a new laptop.
So again, as with several of your other threads, you've made up your mind before posting a question, so why bother asking it?? Go buy whatever laptop you want.

rupeshforu3 09-12-2014 10:02 AM

My intention is not to neglect your message but due to engaged in other work I did.

Previously in other forums someone has suggested to buy a new one and so I have decided to buy a new one and even searched a lot which is the best and right now I am not going to do the same mistake.

At present I want to make my system work fine and so can you suggest which distro to choose and how to configure it properly the one I have selected is RHEL7 ( this time with evaluation license ).

I want hassle free computing.

I have choosed RHEL because it is small I think but can you suggest the one which is best suitable.

TB0ne 09-12-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rupeshforu3 (Post 5236840)
My intention is not to neglect your message but due to engaged in other work I did.

You had two threads going, and responded in them, but you didn't answer questions asked. It wasn't that you were busy..you ignored what was suggested/said, and didn't answer. Being busy would mean you didn't post ANYTHING in those threads...which you did.
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Previously in other forums someone has suggested to buy a new one and so I have decided to buy a new one and even searched a lot which is the best and right now I am not going to do the same mistake.
So are you going to buy a new laptop or not? Either way...it DOESN'T MATTER...you WILL have issues with ANY piece of hardware you buy, the same as you do with Windows or Mac. Again, if you are expecting to have your problems magically vanish with new hardware, you are WRONG.
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At present I want to make my system work fine and so can you suggest which distro to choose and how to configure it properly the one I have selected is RHEL7 ( this time with evaluation license ). I want hassle free computing.

I have choosed RHEL because it is small I think but can you suggest the one which is best suitable.
And again, you ask a question when you have already decided on what you're going to do, so what's the point in asking? As has been said HUNDREDS of times on this very site, Red Hat Enterprise is NOT NOW, and NOT EVER a good choice for a laptop. It is for SERVERS, not consumer hardware...support for wifi, bluetooth, decent video, etc., may be problematic.

AGAIN: openSUSE will work fine, if you INSTALL IT CORRECTLY, which you DID NOT. Fedora will work fine..so will Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, or any OTHER free distro. Pick one. I've use openSUSE for years, with ZERO problems, because I installed it correctly (that is, by NOT ignoring installation errors, and doing research ON MY OWN). I have 13.1 running on a laptop that's a couple years old, with ZERO problems.


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