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Wikileaks posts more C.I.A. material!!

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https://www.rt.com/news/379757-your-...ife-is-hacked/

Apple, Samsung, Microsoft: WikiLeaks blows lid on scale of CIA’s hacking arsenal

The major takeaway from the latest WikiLeaks dump centers around the terrifying, ‘all-seeing-eye’ surveillance project codenamed ‘Weeping Angel.’ The CIA appears to have taken espionage to a whole new level if WikiLeaks’ initial analysis is accurate.

RT - Vault 7: WikiLeaks releases 'Year Zero' largest ever publication on CIA hacking tools

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https://www.rt.com/viral/379769-snow...ikileaks-dump/

Snowden on WikiLeaks Year Zero: Evidence US govt pays to keep 'software unsafe'

Edward Snowden has tweeted his response to WikiLeaks’ massive dump of confidential documents surrounding CIA hacking tools, describing it as “genuinely a big deal.”

https://twitter.com/Snowden

Lionel Nation - VAULT 7: CIA Staged Fake Russian Hacking to Set Up Trump — Russian Cyber-Attack M.O. As False Flag

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Today, Tuesday 7 March 2017, WikiLeaks begins its new series of leaks on the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. Code-named "Vault 7" by WikiLeaks, it is the largest ever publication of confidential documents on the agency.

The first full part of the series, "Year Zero", comprises 8,761 documents and files from an isolated, high-security network situated inside the CIA's Center for Cyber Intelligence in Langley, Virgina. It follows an introductory disclosure last month of CIA targeting French political parties and candidates in the lead up to the 2012 presidential election.

Recently, the CIA lost control of the majority of its hacking arsenal including malware, viruses, trojans, weaponized "zero day" exploits, malware remote control systems and associated documentation. This extraordinary collection, which amounts to more than several hundred million lines of code, gives its possessor the entire hacking capacity of the CIA. The archive appears to have been circulated among former U.S. government hackers and contractors in an unauthorized manner, one of whom has provided WikiLeaks with portions of the archive.

"Year Zero" introduces the scope and direction of the CIA's global covert hacking program, its malware arsenal and dozens of "zero day" weaponized exploits against a wide range of U.S. and European company products, include Apple's iPhone, Google's Android and Microsoft's Windows and even Samsung TVs, which are turned into covert microphones.

Since 2001 the CIA has gained political and budgetary preeminence over the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). The CIA found itself building not just its now infamous drone fleet, but a very different type of covert, globe-spanning force — its own substantial fleet of hackers. The agency's hacking division freed it from having to disclose its often controversial operations to the NSA (its primary bureaucratic rival) in order to draw on the NSA's hacking capacities.

I think companies like Apple really want to cut their market share. They are now clearly instruments of the American Empire. If Snowden is right then they accept payment for bad software. I hope it was worth it for them. It goes to show that open source is the only way to go except when the user isn't in control of updates.

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 5680424)

Oh joy, Orwell's nightmare come true....
H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS VAULT 7 CIA CAN SPY THROUGH TELEVISION: Edward Snowden Analyzes WikiLeaks Vault 7

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H.A. Goodman - CIA HOARDED ZERO DAY VULNERABILITY REVEALS WIKILEAKS VAULT 7: CIA Can Hack Trump Twitter

C'mon ... what the heck do you expect?

When I use my Macintosh, I perfectly-well know that the computer spends a lot of time, e.g. at boot and when I log in, "doing various things about which I have n-o control.
Both my iPhone, and my Mac, "when I go to sleep at night, charging them up before morning," analyze every picture that I have taken, "looking for faces." And then, "transmitting them, somewhere." :mad:

Did I, as the supposed owner(!) of this device, have any say in the matter? Hell, no.

Sometime in the future ... (and you read about it here, first, Future Historians™ ...) ... "the definition of 'Terrorism™,' and indeed of [world ...] warfare(!) will be completely redefined. "Incomprehensibly surgical strikes will be conducted – "as though Armies® and Navies® and National Guards® simply didn't exist at all(!)." :eek:

By "an utterly un-identifiable and un-locatable military enemy" that ... somehow ... killed your daughter in her bedroom," because ... somehow ... they knew everything(!) about her! (They even knew, within ±7 feet, exactly where in your house, her bedroom was!)

"Knowledge ... I-S ... Power!"

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Originally Posted by Puck (A Midsummer Night's Dream):

"What fools these Mortals Be!"

Ladies and Gentlebeings, the truth is that we have ... "ostensibly 'in the name of National Global Security™'" ... been persuaded to forget a fundamental lesson that was taught, many centuries ago, in The Art of War:

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All Warfare Is Based On Deception.

Well there was a comedy skit (can't quite place it) - but it involved answering the phone with the following: "Fsck Hoover, hello?" I guess now all we have to to is give the middle finger each time we either turn our tvs on, or just go right in front of it.

This needs repeating here:

"Rights are not rights if someone can take them away. They are privileges. That is all we have ever had in this country, is a bill of temporary privileges. And if you read the news even badly, you know that every year the list gets shorter and shorter. Sooner or later, the people in this country are gonna realize the government .. does not care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare or your safety.. It is interested in its own power. That is the only thing. Keeping it and expanding it wherever possible."— George Carlin

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Originally Posted by cousinlucky (Post 5680447)

.....I miss Carlin :cry:

Carlin, Pryor, etc., etc. were masters at bringing awareness; I miss all of them!!

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5680443)

C'mon ... what the heck do you expect?

When I use my Macintosh, I perfectly-well know that the computer spends a lot of time, e.g. at boot and when I log in, "doing various things about which I have n-o control.
Both my iPhone, and my Mac, "when I go to sleep at night, charging them up before morning," analyze every picture that I have taken, "looking for faces." And then, "transmitting them, somewhere." :mad:

Did I, as the supposed owner(!) of this device, have any say in the matter? Hell, no.

Sometime in the future ... (and you read about it here, first, Future Historians™ ...) ... "the definition of 'Terrorism™,' and indeed of [world ...] warfare(!) will be completely redefined. "Incomprehensibly surgical strikes will be conducted – [i]"as though Armies® and Navies® and National Guards® simply didn't exist at all(!)." :eek:

By "an utterly un-identifiable and un-locatable military enemy" that ... somehow ... killed your daughter in her bedroom," because ... somehow ... they knew everything(!) about her! (They even knew, within ±7 feet, exactly where in your house, her bedroom was!)

"Knowledge ... I-S ... Power!"

Ladies and Gentlebeings, the truth is that we have ... "ostensibly 'in the name of National Global Security™'" ... been persuaded to forget a fundamental lesson that was taught, many centuries ago, in The Art of War:

For once, I agree with with almost (if not) everything you said. Right on the money! ;)

H.A. Goodman - WIRETAPPING: OBAMA AND CLINTON LIED MORE THAN TRUMP. Democratic Lies More Nuanced Than Trump's
H.A. Goodman - WSA WHISTLEBLOWER SAYS TRUMP WIRETAPPED UNDER OBAMA. Deep State Spied on Trump
H.A. Goodman - CIA ANIMAL CRUELTY WIKILEAKS VAULT 7: CIA Bugged Cats Before TV and Cell Phones

And.

RT Crosstalk - Trump Vs. Obama

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Lionel on RT #Vault7: CIA Taps Trump Then Denies It

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https://www.rt.com/news/379856-wikil...acking-vault7/

WikiLeaks says just 1% of #Vault7 covert documents released so far

WikiLeaks’ data dump on Tuesday accounted for less than one percent of ‘Vault 7’, a collection of leaked CIA documents which revealed the extent of its hacking capabilities, the whistleblowing organization has claimed on Twitter.

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Lionel Nation - WikiLeaks Vault 7: What You Should Know and Fear, CIA vs. NSA Turf Battles, How Trump Was Right

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(ZEROHEDGE) WikiLeaks has published what it claims is the largest ever release of confidential documents on the CIA. It includes more than 8,000 documents as part of ‘Vault 7’, a series of leaks on the agency, which have allegedly emerged from the CIA’s Center For Cyber Intelligence in Langley, and which can be seen on the org chart below, which Wikileaks also released:

A total of 8,761 documents have been published as part of ‘Year Zero’, the first in a series of leaks the whistleblower organization has dubbed ‘Vault 7.’ WikiLeaks said that ‘Year Zero’ revealed details of the CIA’s “global covert hacking program,” including “weaponized exploits” used against company products including “Apple’s iPhone, Google’s Android and Microsoft’s Windows and even Samsung TVs, which are turned into covert microphones.”

Personally, I'd be more concerned if security forces couldn't access such things when they need to. As I've said so many times, no-one is monitoring everyone: the manpower required would too large.

What does concern me is the way in which the US services leak like sieves. When was the last time that sort of thing happened in the UK? There's also the problem of who's behind Wikileaks. When The Guardian interviewed Assange, they asked why he didn't publish leaks from Russia and he replied that there was no need, since Russia has an effective press!

CIA should just stick with what its good at - drug trafficking - because all this gathered intelligence is not targeted to keep us safe anyways, and is cleared used by the upper echelon of government to spy not just on the populace as a whole, but now obviously used for political ends. Whats to stop Trump from doing the exact same thing now on the next elections?

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H.A. Goodman - CIA HACKS INTO CARS WIKILEAKS VAULT 7 PART 1: CIA Might Have Hacked Michael Hasting's Car

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Well, I would like to see how the MSM will try to ignore all this as much as possible. "Those damned Russians, how dare they embarrass us like this...."

RT - Vault 7 CIA leaks: Frankfurt hacking base, ‘Pocket Putin’, spying TVs and more from WikiLeaks

If these revelations are true, then the Russian hacking narrative of the elections would be confirmed false since the CIA staged it. I can't wait to see more damage control. :)

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 5680829)

If these revelations are true, then the Russian hacking narrative of the elections would be confirmed false since the CIA staged it.

Huh? The new info only shows that the CIA is capable of staging, not that they have. And it was already pretty obvious that they were capable of it.

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 5680852)

RT - New anti-Russia bill is ‘stupid, uninformed politics’ – ex-State Dept official

(Haven't watched the video, but) An anti-Russia might be smart politics for Trump: if he signs such a bill, it will be harder for people to criticize him for being "too friendly" with Russia.

The point is, all these modern devices are subject to hacking, from every side. Sadly Android seems to be the least secure.

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 5680876)

Huh? The new info only shows that the CIA is capable of staging, not that they have. And it was already pretty obvious that they were capable of it.

If they did get a hold of Russian malware, then they could theoretically make it look like the Russians were responsible. There is no evidence of that, yet I am leaning towards the wikileaks revelations as more truthful obviously, rather than the whining of the dems how Russia stole the election for Trump.

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 5680876)

(Haven't watched the video, but) An anti-Russia might be smart politics for Trump: if he signs such a bill, it will be harder for people to criticize him for being "too friendly" with Russia.

He is not in a good position, if he takes a hard line it will just keep a cold war atmosphere, but if he improves relations with Russia, it is what the dems need to paint him as a stooge of Putin. The dems are the ones playing a dangerous game here, they would risk poor relations with another nuclear power for political purposes, and it is this kind of recklessness is what can get a lot of people killed.

I keep beating the NATO issue and I am going to here, Russia is only reacting to what NATO has been doing since the collapse of the USSR. There is technically no need for NATO, but their ever encroachment towards Russia is not helping. Russia is responding in kind, but are painted as the aggressors in the first place. Of course this kind of thinking would paint anyone as pro-Russian. I am not necessarily pro-Russian, I just don't feel the need to have any confrontation with another nuclear power thats all. Call me crazy, but I don't really want another threat of a nuclear war thanks, unlike some politicians would in the US gov.

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H.A. Goodman - CIA ADMITS AUTHENTICITY OF WIKILEAKS VAULT 7. CIA Responds to Vault 7

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Lionel Nation - WikiLeaks and Vault 7 Prove the Danger to Liberty that CIA and NSA Pose

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Former CIA director Michael Hayden blamed cultural differences between his generation and millennials for a growing number of high-profile intelligence leaks following WikiLeaks’ “Vault 7” release Tuesday. Part one of the leak, dubbed “Year Zero,” includes 8,761 files said to originate from within the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence.

The more factual information the United States public learns about the actual filthy " behind the scenes " operations of our devilish government; the more the public will seek to change it!!

Or the more the secretive the devilish government will become, and resort to draconian measures against it's own populace.

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 5680908)

If they did get a hold of Russian malware,

Pretty much the only way they could have failed to get a hold of Russian malware is if the Russians never used their malware at all. That seems, unlikely?

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then they could theoretically make it look like the Russians were responsible. There is no evidence of that,

No argument there.

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yet I am leaning towards the wikileaks revelations as more truthful obviously,

Did they find a memo with a plan to mess up the election?

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 5680933)

Pretty much the only way they could have failed to get a hold of Russian malware is if the Russians never used their malware at all. That seems, unlikely?

Who knows, the Russians could have sold it or may have been leaked to the US as well. Just a theory

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 5680933)

Did they find a memo with a plan to mess up the election?

No, but the dems insist that the Russians are behind Trump getting elected, also behind the DNC hacks but why did they deny access to the FBI to analyze their servers I wonder? :scratch:

And nothing really from any of the media in US about any evidence that the Russians were somehow involved, yet that is the constant claim they would prefer everyone believes.

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RT - Crosstalk Politocide?

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If Joe McCarthy were alive today, he would easily recognize the witch hunt hysteria consuming Washington. Blaming Russia is targeting Donald Trump. The outcome of this is dangerously unclear. CrossTalking with Dmitry Babich, Edward Lozansky, and Alex Christoforou.

If it really is true (as it likely is) that we are quickly entering an era that renders traditional warfare (and hardware - "as if the army and navy didn't exist") essentially obsolete and superfluous, I can't help but wonder when (more likely "IF") the Defense budget will drop precipitously as it should.

Here's some hard data via "the horse's mouth"

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 5680937)

Who knows, the Russians could have sold it or may have been leaked to the US as well. Just a theory

Yeah, of course. There are countless ways the CIA could have gotten it, but any scenario I imagine where they are unable to get it just seems absurd.

The point is that the new info from Wikileaks doesn't change the probabilities of the election being hacked/manipulated/whatever by Russians/CIA/whomever.

The Democrats are still smarting over the fact that "their candidate lost, and lost badly." I'm afraid that they'd like nothing more than to somehow "declare" that the election results were somehow "wrong," declare a state of emergency and a "provisional government," remove Trump by cabal and install the person who "of course, should have won": "Madame President!"

:rolleyes:

But, "it ain't gonna happen, folks."

It's your own damned fault for creating election machines that did not have a paper trail, but it's also a simple fact that plenty of precincts and plenty of States did not use paperless equipment. And it's also an immutable fact that the election results map was "a sea of red." Hillary won some of the most-populous States, but the voting in a Presidential election is by State, with the voters in each state effectively voting among and against themselves in the "first tier" to decide the allocation of votes in the (Electoral College) "second tier." And this election wasn't even close.

The people of the US wanted change, and that's exactly what they've got.

The notion of "a President who speaks to Russia, and/or is spoken-to by Russia," is an anathema to the Cold War mentality that still drives the "Military-Industrial Complex" which feeds Washington so many illicit paychecks. Of course they will feed Trump bills to sign that would burn relations with Russia, so that we can have our kids "Duck and Cover" in their classrooms just like the good ol' days. But I'm quite sure he's too smart to sign them.

And, quite frankly, "what about Vladimir Putin?" He's been around this block a l-o-n-g time. Knows precisely what some people in Washington, DC think of him. But, all in all a very seasoned politician from an entirely different national culture. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that some people in Washington are trying to play Russia like an accordion. But, that doesn't mean that Russia has to take the bait. "This is not their first tango."

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Originally Posted by Jeebizz (Post 5680937)

No, but the dems insist that the Russians are behind Trump getting elected, also behind the DNC hacks but why did they deny access to the FBI to analyze their servers I wonder?

"That's right! That's right! So the wrong candidate won! Y'see, it was those damned Russians!"

("Those damned Russians" are the perfect political bogey-man. Why, if they ever saw that the President wasn't accompanied by a "nuclear football," surely they'd launch those ICBM's right away!) :rolleyes:

Therefore, let's stage a nice palace coup d'etat, remove Trump (while arresting him for something), and install Hillary, so she can double NAFTA, beg the Chinese to bring back the TPP, and do "all the right things for America!" (According to the Dems, of course.)

(Sigh ...)

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Let this be a lesson to everyone in data processing: "we should have seen this coming from day one, when 'paperless voting machines' were first proposed." And, quite a few of us did so. After all, if you don't get a receipt at the burger joint, you usually get a free hamburger next time. But, "not so when you vote," at least in those places that wholeheartedly adopted those machines. (Note: "but a great many states and precincts did not.")

In those places, therefore, "howls of protest that the election was rigged" instantly started, just as soon as certain powers-that-be were confronted by the fact that their candidate did not win.

I remember that Trump himself commented that, had the election gone the other way and it was his camp saying such things, "they would have just called us all 'conspiracy theorists.'" Well put.

Nevertheless, this is a compelling case for the need for "warehouses full of paper," coupled with procedures to prevent debacles like "hanging chads." You can install equipment that takes a rapid count by scanning (and error-checking) ballots as they are inserted into the box, but, by gawd, you'd better have that box! While you can use computers to rapid-count the votes, the votes themselves must be committed to a permanent medium (paper ...) that cannot be tampered with by any computer anywhere.

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Originally Posted by ntubski (Post 5681088)

Well I am less likely to believe that the Russians had anything to do with the elections. At this point given the track record of our 'benevolent' and 'trustworthy' government, that never got us into any wars on false pretenses - it had to be the Russians......Yea , right :rolleyes:.

This belief is dangerous, but now I feel like I have to bring up the boy who cried wolf too many times because now if there were some kind of legitimate threat, it would be hard to believe, because the very people/agencies that were supposed to work on our behalf and benefit has clearly squandered our trust. Their actions in one way or another will get us all killed. Say 100% of the public went along with the so-called Russian hack narrative, then things would escalate and nobody would oppose it. I would still, I mean call me crazy, but uh I don't really want this country to pick a fight with another former nuclear power (that is slowly rising). I still find it disturbing, and see it as a dangerous assumption that there are those in the west, who believe that Russia is a mere former shell of herself - and is a pushover with crumbling Soviet era weaponry. If I am the only one who sees the stupidity and danger in that kind of thought process, then I must be the crazy one or something. It would behoove those who value their very existence not to get caught up in this Neo-Mccarythism, it is dangerous - this is not another pushover country like Iraq.

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5681114)

Again, I am looking at this as self preservation. These idiots from our very own government have such a lust for war that they are willing to do anything. Now that the US has pretty much strategically placed itself all over, it seems like a good idea to try to pick a fight with a sleeping nuclear power, I mean what could possibly go wrong there right? Russia is in no real position, they are a shell of what they used to be........ History question - remember that uh major conflict last century? Y'know, when that Hitler guy decided to attack the evil Soviets - effectively tearing up the pact with Stalin? After all, they were just a backward technologically inferior country compared to the 'ubermensch' Nazis...........Until the populace pretty much put aside the atrocities of Stalin, 'for the Motherland.?' - And you pretty much saw an uprising of such industrial scale never before seen? Mass production of new tanks (T-34s) , weaponry, artillery, planes, whatever. Remember near the end of the war the Russians were poised to take all of Germany just by sheer number of soldiers, majority literally were killed because it was just suicide missions, just to gain even another block and don't think they would have sent more to their death to gain even more.

Whats the point? Well, remember back then Russia wasn't even a recongised power of any kind - and now you have these idiots that would like to 'poke the proverbial bear, from her slumber', and not taking into account this time she has nuclear weapons? Or maybe they do know this and do not care because they will be safe in a bunker, while we the suckers die. Again, call me crazy but I don't feel like having any sort of confrontation with such a country, do you?

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5681119)

Again, I am going to reiterate from all this - at this point we shouldn't even give any sort of validity or credibility to what we are told of other foreign states. If the CIA does indeed have such abilities for such false flags - it will be the death of us all. Like I stated this has cost them such credibility that now if there were ever a legit threat (pray to your preferred deity that there isn't) - it is because most will now conclude it is just the CIA again planting fingerprints.

What the rest of the US populace needs to be made aware of (which I am hoping most are now) is that this kind of shenanigans have been carried out by our 'benevolent' state in other nations, now it is attempting the same thing on it's own population - because yes, the people dared to choose the wrong candidate and something has to be done about it.

Speaking of paper trails:
Mouthy Buddha - Did Obama Leave A Paper Trail?

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I dive into the topic of wire taps, Obamas ethical commitments, vault 7, and attempt to figure out what the best plausible answers are to all of these damn questions.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39221421

Wikileaks is offering tech firms CIA files first

Technology firms will get "exclusive access" to details of the CIA's cyber-warfare programme, Wikileaks has said.

https://www.rt.com/usa/380010-wikile...-leaks-vault7/

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https://www.rt.com/usa/380010-wikile...-leaks-vault7/

China urges US to stop hacking other countries following Vault 7 release

WikiLeaks will give tech companies which suffered "billions of dollars of damage" when hacked by the CIA "exclusive access" to its technical expertise, founder Julian Assange revealed at a press conference.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39210628

FBI and CIA launch criminal investigation into 'malware leaks'

US federal agencies have launched a criminal investigation into the public release of documents said to detail CIA hacking tools, US officials say.

Lionel Nation - CIA and NSA Have Been Listening to You for Decades: Here's How and Why

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WikiLeaks and Vault 7 provide an opportunity for you, the citizen, to learn up close and personal what governments have done and are doing to you through enlisting apparatchiks, cronies and confederates to cull and capture and vacuum metadata to be used for algorithm compilation, predictive policing à law Minority Report, blatant and naked commerce and the subjugation of your freedom(s). Listen carefully to this.

He just posted this, and just echoed some of my own points about pretty much 'framing' another state(crying wolf). Yes, another long video, but again offers good analysis IMO.

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This is an interesting analysis from Sargon of Akkad:

Year Zero: The First #Vault7 Leak

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We have seen 1% of the Vault 7 documents and we already know the CIA has an omniscient digital eye.

RT - 'Double standards': CIA leaks don't stir MSM, Russia stays in spotlight

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The White House has accused the media of 'double standards' after largely ignoring revelations the CIA can frame other countries for hacking. Wikileaks' latest file dump shows the American intelligence chiefs could have used Russian malware to make it look like Moscow was behind cyber-attacks during the U.S. presidential election. Wikileaks has promised more revelations saying this first file-dump is just 1% of the total. With some saying the information could play into Russia's hand as RT's Polly Boiko reports.

Don't listen to them though, we all know CNN has it all correct. Its all Russia.......Somehow......Because, CIA says so......

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Lionel: WikiLeaks Vault 7 Shows That Trump Is Not Crazy | The CIA Spies On Everybody

H.A. Goodman - VAULT 7 PART 2 COMING SOON: WikiLeaks Julian Assange Explains How CIA Lost Its Hacking Tools

Will be downloading the torrent when it comes out as well :).

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https://www.rt.com/usa/380047-cia-wi...7-cyberspying/

‘Not exactly a bastion of truth’: CIA hits back at Assange after WikiLeaks #Vault7 release

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has responded to explosive allegations by WikiLeaks about the agency’s use of US “cyber weapons” by calling into question the integrity of the whistleblowing website’s co-founder.

RT Crosstalk - Vault 7

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Published on Mar 10, 2017

Wikileaks strikes again. On full display are the CIA’s spy tools and methods. Snowden provided a briefing book on U.S. surveillance, but the CIA leaks could provide the blueprints. And your Samsung TV and iPhone are a big part of this.
CrossTalking with Larry Johnson, Suzanne Nossel, and Patrick Henningsen.

styxhexenhammer666 - New York Times Supports Espionage and Mass Surveillance, Slaps Family Friendly Terms on It

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http://archive.is/QwRmU

The relationship between a new president and the intelligence agencies that serve him can be difficult in the best of times. But it’s hard to imagine a more turbulent transition than the current one, which has been marred by assertions that the administration has tried to both politicize and marginalize intelligence gathering.

The Britisher - Some thoughts on Surveillance

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Published on Mar 10, 2017

A few thoughts about surveillance in light of the recent Wikileaks Vault 7 revelations regarding the CIA.

Leave us not forget that, within days of the 9/11 attacks, the PATRIOT Act appeared. Although it was many hundreds of pages long, it was miraculously ready to be signed, and of course it was passed by a frightened Congress and signed into law by the President. We were all supposed to "breathe a sigh of relief" ...

... not, "smell a rat."

("Y'know, they could not possibly have 'just started writing this thing' a month ago ...") :scratch:

History should have told us long ago to be wary of people who seem "strangely prepared" for a "sudden" calamity, and to be fearful of "emergency" legislation that is passed on the wake of a sudden surprise threat. Even the bills that swept Adolf Hitler into power were such "emergency" measures, passed after the Reichstag fire and the ensuing accusation of "Communists." History is fairly dripping with such lessons.

Aye ... dripping with blood.

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5682706)

And if one wanted to KNOW what was in the Patriot Act - Pelosi might have stated that it has to be signed first before anyone can know what it holds - why she is still in government is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 5682706)

History should have told us long ago to be wary of people who seem "strangely prepared" for a "sudden" calamity, and to be fearful of "emergency" legislation that is passed on the wake of a sudden surprise threat. Even the bills that swept Adolf Hitler into power were such "emergency" measures, passed after the Reichstag fire and the ensuing accusation of "Communists." History is fairly dripping with such lessons.

Aye ... dripping with blood.

A classic tactic out of Orwell's 1984, though when Hitler initiated nobody had any clue until 1984 was published in 1949.

RT America - ‘There are no secrets in this world’ – John McAfee

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Published on Mar 9, 2017

WikiLeaks’ Vault 7 “Year Zero” release exposed the CIA’s extreme vulnerability as well as ordinary Americans’ susceptibility to internal surveillance. Cybersecurity expert John McAfee joins “News with Ed” to share his peerless expertise on the revelations and what they tell us about the Trump administration’s alleged connections with Russia and MSM claims of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

RT Sophie & Co - US-Russia thaw depends on whether Trump has guts to go against establishment - Reagan's Adviser

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Published on Mar 13, 2017

The Cold War has long been over, but it seems, not for all. The idea of reconciling with Russia has been met by fierce resistance on Capitol Hill. Though Trump promised to repair broken relations while on the campaign trail, the new US administration has been forced into a struggle against the nation’s establishment. Will the new president still be able to find common ground with Moscow? Or are we in for Cold War Two? We ask a former adviser to President Ronald Reagan on Russian affairs, Russia scholar and author – Suzanne Massie.

Well, Trump may have a better chance now since practically the hacking narrative has been pulled apart. Now things get more interesting since Trump further claims he was wire tapped by his predecessor - and again the continual refusal for the dems to allow FBI access to the servers, but lets just take their word it was Russia that hacked them, k..:rolleyes:

H.A. Goodman - TRUMP WIRETAP EVIDENCE CONSISTS OF OBAMA SPYING ON TRUMP'S TEAM: Trump On Tape With Team

Those pesky Millennials...

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Former CIA Director Blames Millennials For WikiLeaks Vault 7 Leak

Recently, Michael Hayden, the former director of the CIA claimed in an interview with the BBC that millennials are for the most part at fault for the Wikileaks Vault 7 leak of classified documentation.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVYdXQTkiI

Mass Surveillance Does Not Work Says UN WatchDog

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Published on Mar 16, 2017

United Nations Watchdog claims that there is no substantial evidence that claims that mass surveillance works.

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Considering the continuing issue of mass surveillance I feel this is relevant here:

Lionel Nation - Customs Can Demand a US Citizen to Surrender a Phone Password to Reenter Their Own Country

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Published on Mar 16, 2017

Suppose you are an American citizen returning home from a trip abroad, and a customs official asks you for your electronic devices and social media passwords. Legal and media analyst Lionel of Lionel Media joins RT America’s Ashlee Banks to answer whether this practice is legal.

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Now my juvenile side is coming out, I am thinking of what I would put on my phone just to troll and get some sort of reaction from said customs agent, something just to make him/her go ..

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Obama used NSA & FBI to spy on Trump – veteran CIA officer

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Published on Mar 20, 2017

The mighty CIA has fallen victim to a major breach, with WikiLeaks revealing the true scope of the Agency’s ability for cyber-espionage. Its tools seem to be aimed at ordinary citizens – your phone, your car, your TV, even your fridge can become an instrument of surveillance in the hands of the CIA. How does the CIA use these tools, and why do they need them in the first place? And as WikiLeaks promises even more revelations, how is all of this going to shape the already tense relationship between new president and the intelligence community? A man who has spent over two decades in the CIA’s clandestine service – Gary Berntsen is on SophieCo.