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bowbalitic 07-17-2009 01:59 PM

Virus scanner for windows using Linux Live CD?
 
Is there a Live CD or flash drive mountable Linux distribution that will search Windows files for potential viruses or malware? I find that many Windows virus scanners are ineffective at removing some of the more sophisticated virus, malware, ect. I was hoping that there was a Linux distribution that keeps up to date with its virus library. I would perfer that it works with Windows xp and vista, but xp would be enough. Thank you for your help.

win32sux 07-17-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowbalitic (Post 3611036)
Is there a Live CD or flash drive mountable Linux distribution that will search Windows files for potential viruses or malware? I find that many Windows virus scanners are ineffective at removing some of the more sophisticated virus, malware, ect. I was hoping that there was a Linux distribution that keeps up to date with its virus library. I would perfer that it works with Windows xp and vista, but xp would be enough. Thank you for your help.

Is the ability to clean the infections it finds one of your requirements? BTW, I'm moving this to General, as it's a Windows security issue. I'll leave a redirect behind for a week or two, though.

bowbalitic 07-17-2009 02:16 PM

Sorry about that.

I would prefer for it to clean the infections. But if that's not possible, than I would like for it to at least allow me to manually remove infections. I suppose this might be asking for too much, but it would also be nice if it had common Linux apps too. Something like a Knoppix Live CD with a virus scanner for windows. I would prefer a distribution mountable to a flash drive though. Thank you for all your help and extremely quick response.

win32sux 07-17-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bowbalitic (Post 3611055)
Sorry about that.

It's all good.

Quote:

I would prefer for it to clean the infections. But if that's not possible, than I would like for it to at least allow me to manually remove infections. I suppose this might be asking for too much, but it would also be nice if it had common Linux apps too. Something like a Knoppix Live CD with a virus scanner for windows. I would prefer a distribution mountable to a flash drive though. Thank you for all your help and extremely quick response.
The only virus scanner I'm sort of familiar with is ClamAV, but I've never heard of it being able to actually do repair jobs. I think for that you're probably going to need to find a live CD which comes with a proprietary antivirus solution. Either that, or modify an existing live CD by adding the proprietary antivirus solution of your choice (many live CDs are designed to be extremely easy to modify by users). I assume there's plenty of live CDs like this one out there with ClamAV, but finding one with a proprietary antivirus might not be as easy (for obvious reasons).

bowbalitic 07-17-2009 02:59 PM

Hmm, I like the looks of the live CD link you gave me, it might be exactly what I was looking for. On its page, it claims that ClamAV is able to repair the problems. But we'll see.

Thanks for all your help, I'm always amazed by the quick response of linuxquestions users and how useful the information is. Thank you for your help.

tekhead2 07-20-2009 11:09 AM

There are several different Bootable linux CD's that can clean NTFS and FAT32 Windows Volumes.

There are a couple of ways to use them. The easiest is to use a thumb drive and run unetbootin. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net . This application will let you run different Linux CD's off of a thumb drive. It's got DR.Web , Kaperski and F_Secure disks you can load and boot from your thumb drive. Dr.Web is ok, but takes forever, Kpaerski is the best, and F-secure won't boot on all hardware. So I suggest just running Kaperski, and make sure you update the definitions.

I also suggest looking into Trinity Rescue Kit, This is my favorite by far. It has several virus scanners built in and you can update and scan all at once as well. You can download it here
http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.ph...63&front_id=12

Once you get TRK booted up you can choose several options at the boot menu, but I usually just boot into the default. You can scan from several different engines, ClamAV, which doesn't clean, AVG which cleans, but its' slower, BDE, or Bit Defender, which works well, F-Prot which is equally good, and Finally VA which is new.

You can run a virus scan from TRK via the virusscan script. So at the prompt you would type virusscan -a avg to scan with AVG only, or you can add multiple engines and scan with several at once, this is usually what I do , so I would issue virusscan -a bde,fprot,va. The current build has some funky issues with AVG and I've not been able to get it to work.

bowbalitic 07-24-2009 05:33 PM

Thanks!!! but...
 
Thanks a TON Tekhead2! This is exactly what I was looking for! I just have one question for the unetbutin... can I place the files in folders once the images are placed on the hard drive? There are alot of files and its kinda a mess and unorganized so I was hoping that I could place each distrobution in its own folder without screwing up the directories. Also, will it affect any thing if I keep other files on the hard drive, like excel files and stuff or do I have to designate this hard drive to linux distrobutions? Cuz its 320gb and it cost me over 100 bucks... Thanks again for all your help you guys!!

linus72 07-24-2009 06:03 PM

Hey
On some distro's you can move stuff around
but on most they will not boot when messing with them

Questions:
Which distro's
like security/recovery/rescue distro's would you like to put on usb?

how big is usb and format?

we can hook it up too
I have many, many on my usb's
multidistro!

bowbalitic 07-24-2009 06:18 PM

It is a 320GB hard drive formated in FAT32, I plan on plan on installing NT password and Registry edit, Ophcrack, Ubuntu, and various other distros. I was hoping that I could simply move all the files in each distro to its own folder so ubuntu has its own folder, ophcrack has its own folder, ect. Because all the files from the different distros are all in the main older mixed with each other. Thanks again.

linus72 07-24-2009 06:22 PM

No chance to hide ubuntu in a folder
most full running distro's cant/ or wont' do that

stuff like ntpasswd, dban, floppy images, etc can go anywhere

some distro's mark certain folders and some will only search a folder, maybe two deep looking
most won't go into any folder, just llok for their own

I have found many ways to get around this, but too hard to explain here.

If you will submit of list of everything you want on there
I'll check it out(and clean it up), as much as possible.?

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 01:10 PM

Sorry its taken me so long to reply.

These are the distros that I will be using.

Trinity-rescue-kit 3.3
Ubuntu
ophcrack
Ophline-reg-pass

and I might want to add more as time passes

Thanks a ton

linus72 07-27-2009 01:18 PM

alright
I'll hook it up

where to get these? is ophline NTPassword breaker?
and which orphcrack?
xp or vista?
Quote:

ophcrack
Ophline-reg-pass
should i google for them or you have links?

which ubuntu?
light fast type ubuntu
heavy big ubuntu

clamav livecd ubuntu?

did you already put trinity on usb?

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 01:37 PM

offline Nt password
http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/

ophcrack is the xp version

and I suppose the heavy version of ubuntu? I have the room, but since i will be working with slow computers I'm not sure if the light would be better. I need a GUI right now though, not to familiar with the terminal yet. Thanks

linus72 07-27-2009 01:50 PM

Oh
light ubutnu I mean like ulite
or wattos

a less "heavy" wm like fluxbox, xfce etc

I recommend like WattOS, or I'll go check my list...

do you want a ubutnu with like "penetration" and web security stuff too?

alright
I got ntpass and now downloading orphcrack xp

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 02:39 PM

I would like the penetration and web security, and what ever ubuntu you think is the best. Also feel free to add linux distros you think are good. I might like them.

linus72 07-27-2009 02:59 PM

OK
update

I got both orphcrack xp and trinity 3.3 hooked up
i also added PartedMagic-4.4/supergrubdisk/mini pmagic/zoros-3.6
and now for which ubuntu??

how big is your usb??
or you want cd
or dvd?

as it is now it's a "transformer"
it can ride on usb or be made into iso
with scripts
1 for dinows
and 1 for linux

linus72 07-27-2009 03:19 PM

OK
update

I got both orphcrack xp and trinity 3.3 hooked up
i also added PartedMagic-4.4/supergrubdisk/mini pmagic/zoros-3.6
and now for which ubuntu??

how big is your usb??
or you want cd
or dvd?

as it is now it's a "transformer"
it can ride on usb or be made into iso
with scripts
1 for dinows
and 1 for linux

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 03:50 PM

Well, I got a 360 gb external hard drive, which I would use assuming I could keep my data on it. But if that not possible, I also have an 2.5 in hard drive ill soon be making an external hard drive. So I guess I could have the bulky ubuntu. Like I said too, if there are any interesting linux distros out there that you think are worth trying, feel free to add them. With all this said, I'm kinda interested on how I'm going to get all this from you?

linus72 07-27-2009 04:08 PM

OMG

you really want a list?

LOL
that would be a real List!

well, there's Samurai Ubuntu
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hlight=samurai

there's nBuntu
http://www.nubuntu.org/

there's DVL
it's not ubuntu
http://www.damnvulnerablelinux.org/

there's Netsec
http://netsecl.com/

there's caine
http://www.caine-live.net/

and http://skl-projekt.hu/sEEcherOS/en/index.html
seecher!

there's alot more too:)

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 05:15 PM

So that's a list of distros you suggest? Why not, feel free to add them if you want the more I learn the better... So I'm still confused on how your going to give this to me. Also, will I be able to use this hard drive for other things? like keeping my excel sheets, games, ect?

linus72 07-27-2009 05:23 PM

on my main pc it's hd is only 180gb and I got like 8
parttions and about 10-15 distro's swimming in there at any time
the distro's change day by day, whatever
like, today I added "Privatix", err..PAW-RC2, omega 11 fedora,
all kinds

Linux is huge dude
it's kinda mesmerizing:)

I don't keep notes
it's all in my head...it's all in my head...bow!

you know White Zombie?
"I'm already dead...I'm already dead..dun-dun-dunnn"
you know Metal??

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 05:34 PM

Well... I'm 20 so White Zombie is a little before my time lol. I do like some of Rob Zombies songs, but I suppose I'm more into the newer stuff. :)

linus72 07-27-2009 05:45 PM

20?
What do you need all this security/rescue stuff for?

Your job?


lol, the 80's rocked!
I gotta help this guy in awhile
he's working on "Cannabix" Linux
what time is it bowbaltic?

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 06:02 PM

Yea, its for my dads business. He's got like 20 employees with computers and their not managed well. So we've got admin accounts with unknown passwords and all sorts of screwy stuff on these computers. I keep trying to get him to switch to Linux instead of Microsoft but not to successful. Also, I plan on starting my own basic tech business, thats another reason I want all this stuff. Also I'm going to go to college for computer engineering so the more I learn the merrier lol. I'm in hawaii so its 1pm here. Thanks for all your help!

linus72 07-27-2009 07:02 PM

LOL
the asking the time thing was a inside joke
you know
"oh, it's 420 dude"

Oh yeah, so is your dad hiring?
I need a job bad

So, how to get you all this stuff??

I could either just provide the menu's, etc
and folder placement

or build it and upload it

I got this idea for selling dvd's(linux)
on ebay
nobody else has multidistro stuff on the market
they would of course easily go on usb too
interested in a partnership?

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 07:29 PM

Hmm well I wouldn't say that I'm a freaking genius at windows (and pretty close to dumb when it comes to Linux) but I suppose I could help out some how. I guess it would probably be easiest for you to give me the menus right? Lol and as far as hiring goes id say hes leaning towards the other direction right now.

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 08:01 PM

Oh and about the selling of the multi-distro dvd/usb... I'm no legal expert but since Linux is freeware doesn't that prevent you from selling it? I don't really know if there is a way to work around it by claiming that you are selling the actual cd/dvd/usb and your services or not but I would suggest looking into this if I were you.

linus72 07-27-2009 08:15 PM

there's many linux cd's on ebay and other places for sale
no s&^%$

ain't no multidistro rescue/install stuff though...

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 08:19 PM

cool cool just wondering wasn't really sure if you could do that, that's all.

bowbalitic 07-27-2009 08:43 PM

Just wondering, is their anything I can do to help with the multi-distro usb that your setting up for me:)? BTW TYVM!!

linus72 07-27-2009 09:00 PM

Read all you can about isolinux and syslinux and extlinux
http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index...slinux_Project

bowbalitic 07-28-2009 02:21 PM

So I've tried, but I'm having trouble installing it onto my hard drive?? Unfortunately the instructions on the website don't really help with this problem.

linus72 07-28-2009 02:36 PM

What problem?

What are you trying to install?

bowbalitic 07-28-2009 02:39 PM

Um the syslinux, in its wiki it says to install to usb hard drive which will replace the boot sector... but I have know idea how to do that and the instructions don't tell you how... told ya I knew very little about linux :)

linus72 07-28-2009 02:47 PM

ah yes

well, a couple pointers it took me awhile to find out

1) you have to install it thru your package manager
ubuntu=synaptic, etc

2) every Linux comes with a different version

3) the old versions don't work too well
no filenames longer than 8 letters,
won't use the vesamenu.c32, etc

OK, what I've just found out

Ubuntu-9.04 comes with syslinux 3.63 or something(very old)
Unetbootin uses old syslinux

Fedora uses version 3.77, which is good:)
shows graphical menu's, etc

Tinycore uses version 3.8+, very good:)

So, don't try to install it from syslinux site
you will have to compile it and it will go bad

I did it on ubuntu 9.04 and it didn't work:)
I think ubuntu uses a gfx type syslinux?

What type Linux are you using?

bowbalitic 07-28-2009 03:23 PM

LOL :) I am unfortunate enough to say that I am using XP :) lol I do have Knoppix but since I'm on company computers that's about all I got.

bowbalitic 07-28-2009 03:26 PM

Oh, and just so you know. I don't really prefer Ubuntu or any thing. I'm not really familiar enough with Linux to really have preferences yet, its just that ubuntu is the only distro that recognizes my graphics card on my "old" computer at home.

linus72 07-28-2009 04:02 PM

You should install Ultimate-Edition 2.2 (9.04)
it rocks like no other:)
http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition-2-2/

and it has many apps!

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 01:41 PM

Actually that looks sweet!

linus72 07-29-2009 02:00 PM

What's up dude?

I'm uploading the stuff, or at least the first batch, now
and it's got like 2hrs left

so, far
I put on it

trinity 3.3
orphcrack xp
parted magic
mini parted magic
zoros 3.6
supergrubdisk
and plop bootmanager

I also included 2 scripts in /boot folder

make_iso.sh

make_iso.bat (windows)

just doubl-click(or in some distro's 1 click)
and choose "run"
it will make a iso named "boot.iso"
in the top folder

choose "run in terminal"
and it will ask for name

you must give it a name that ends with .iso
like mycd.iso

you can edit the script and make it name it whatever
the scripts are found in any slax, or slax based distro

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 02:06 PM

Seriously, thank you dude! So are you uploading it to your site?

linus72 07-29-2009 02:12 PM

yeah, I got other stuff there too
some older

did you look?

http://multidistro.com/downloads/und...der1gbusb.html

LSAK I think is good,
http://multidistro.proboards.com/ind...splay&thread=7

also, I just finished RescuePup-Beta
http://multidistro.com/shots/scrnshots.html

upload will be done in T-minus 1hr45min

linus72 07-29-2009 02:14 PM

oh
heres the rescuepupu link
it's like 175mb cd/usb
http://multidistro.com/downloads/pup...Pup-Beta-1.iso
all my stuff is cd/usb

just plop it down on fat32 usb and go
if you got syslinux ,etc

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 02:31 PM

I did look, some of your stuff pretty cool. :) So when I get back to Ohio (17 days) we'll have to keep in touch. I wouldn't mind helping with this project/idea of yours.

linus72 07-29-2009 02:35 PM

No doubt

multidistro dvd!

fix any system, now!

what stuff can you do?
programming, scripting, graphics?

me, I can't do any:)

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 02:43 PM

Well as of now... not really much... but I'm heading into my second year of computer engineering so I hope to learn some more. But to be honest if I cant figure it out I know someone who could. Unfortunately I'm more of a hardware guy right now.

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 02:45 PM

Oh, and my sister is really into pictures and photo-shop and stuff so I suppose she could help with some of that maybe?

linus72 07-29-2009 04:11 PM

OK
it's finaaly done:0

I'm gonna personal message you
and give link there

if anyone else wants this download, please pm me as my bandwidth is screeching this monmth:)

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 04:54 PM

Sweet!! I guess that's one thing I can help you out with when I get to Ohio ;). I'm going to upgrading to T2 internet and I suppose I could help a little with the bandwidth problem.

bowbalitic 07-29-2009 06:56 PM

Um sorry dude, I'm not a contributing member to lq so I don't think you can pm me. Do you allow free pm'ing on your site? Cuz I could just create an account there and you could pm me? I'm going to set one up now as bowbalitic thx


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