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Brother Michael 01-14-2004 07:44 PM

Alright, my turn...

Bowling Green State University (my school) is a mac campus. PC's are used by students, but allt he professors are issued macs. Now for me, I have been told, and retold, that Macs are the best when it comes to graphic media, (which is essentially what i am majoring in).

I have been playing with the MacOSX (though not sure which version) and have found it to be very awsome, and powerful. I am very excited to hear now that X is able to be run on Mac's (I knew it had Linux, but i thought that was for stability, didn't know how far they were going to take it).

I am getting a Mac this summer, and I cannot wait to play with it in terms of a Mac-Linux client.

Mike

glyph 01-14-2004 08:36 PM

i'm not too familiar with mac machines, but i bought a g5 last week. so far i've had my video card replaced and the machine is back at the shop with a bad logic board. i had to raise hell in order for the salesman to agree to replace it with another g5.
seems that the g5 line is having problems with video and logic boards. having checked out the forums for mac, the problems i'm experiencing are not isolated.

wish i had something positive to say. i guess i'll see what happens with my replacement. :rolleyes:

Baldorg 01-14-2004 10:01 PM

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so where are ur sarcasim tags?
Right next to my 'spelling' and 'correct ponctuation' ones.

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Look at word processing. What will most people choose if they have an option between MSWord, and Apple works? It's ovious that the choice would be MS word.

Database. Everyone knows that when it comes to do database projects, Excel beats Apple works in every possible way.

Presentations. Making a presentation with Apple? I have no clue about that...
MS Office had a Mac OS version.

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Macs are essentially uncrashable. But then i had a win me that i managed to keep to only 2 crashes in 3 years. I guarantee every problem even remotely resembling a crash will be traceable to a permissions or cron task sloppiness. Mac OS X and all the Mac apps are just a treat in every way! Hardware quality is world class as well. The single button mouse is a GOOD idea --why should the mouse do all the work? Thats why there is a keyboard with the command button.
My 486 beats your MacSuperpopwerComputer or whatever they decided to call it today.

Reason?

#1: Never crashed.
#2: No pesky mouse! Keyboard rules.
#3: Rock hard Hardware! Built strong to last long!
#4: Software is incredible, developed by programmers who have an idea of what they are doing and that use simple protocols and standards.

Following your logic, I should go straight to the PC store and buy a 486DX2! Does something seem wrong here? Yes. Your previous post meant NOTHING! You bragged about things that can't be proved! Apple has the exact same way of promoting their stuff, this is why more and more people switch from Windows XP to Mac OS X.

witeshark 01-14-2004 10:16 PM

Proved nothing? Can't be proved? Sure it is proved, I'm typing on it and running apps that would have pounded my old ME to blue screen by now. It's proved to me, take it or leave it. Your joke that a 486 would be a choice following my logic is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. I just posted what I have experienced you don't like then don't read it. I mean if everyone already knew (proved) what I posted, then why would I need to post it in the first place?

witeshark 01-14-2004 10:25 PM

486 beats what? Done any research in the last century? The Velocity Engine processes data in huge 128-bit chunks, instead of the smaller 32-bit or 64-bit chunks used in traditional processors. The PowerPC G4 with Velocity Engine can perform complex calculations two to four times faster than processors found in run-of-the-mill PCs

Capt_Caveman 01-15-2004 12:43 AM

Personally, I think OSX is light-years better than the old MacOS. Those things would fold all the time (nothing fuunier than that stupid sad-Mac icon IMO ;) ) However, It'd be nice if all the third-party vendors would get there act together and write applications that run natively on OSX, so it didn't have to run in OS9 "emulation-mode" 1/2 the time.

Gill Bates 01-15-2004 04:41 AM

if u dont like trolling then use ur ignore button, its great

frieza 01-15-2004 08:34 AM

macosX is based on the mach kenrel, and unlike the previous macoses, it does have a unix command line that works... and it even comes with a compiler (not installed by default) similar to that for linux! it supposedly can mount nfs shares as well, although i havn't had much luck with that.

Baldorg 01-15-2004 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by frieza
macosX is based on the mach kenrel, and unlike the previous macoses, it does have a unix command line that works... and it even comes with a compiler (not installed by default) similar to that for linux! it supposedly can mount nfs shares as well, although i havn't had much luck with that.
It's GCC, it's not 'similar', it's the same.

frieza 01-15-2004 09:38 AM

macos X might be essentially uncrashable, but i have seen macos crash many a time being a former mac addict, now still a mac lover, but a linux addict :)

witeshark 01-15-2004 12:16 PM

A very good point about some third party apps needing OS 9 (classic) to run. I don't use any. And maintaining the HD is easy with the command line (terminal) and the repair permissions utility. And any third party app starter that render the dock unnecessary seems a bit idiotic, though the dock can be "quit" more or less permanently --I would have to wonder why anyone would want to! The developers have put painstaking work into a superb GUI and well organized apps. Why change anything?

Capt_Caveman 01-15-2004 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by witeshark
A very good point about some third party apps needing OS 9 (classic) to run. I don't use any. And maintaining the HD is easy with the command line (terminal) and the repair permissions utility. And any third party app starter that render the dock unnecessary seems a bit idiotic, though the dock can be "quit" more or less permanently --I would have to wonder why anyone would want to! The developers have put painstaking work into a superb GUI and well organized apps. Why change anything?
Agreed. I almost want to cringe everytime I see that "classic-mode" starting up. Unfortunately, where I work, we have to use some third-party applications that I think have a development cycle in the order of decades rather than months/years. But the GUI is pretty remarkable and has some really cool features that I haven't seen anywhere else. Wish they'd come out with an x86 version as I'd probably have to sell a kidney or two in order to afford one for home:). I'm actually pretty fired up as I just found out we're building a parrallel computing grid composed of 100 G5s with 8Gb of RAM each. Should be pretty cool once it comes online.

witeshark 01-15-2004 06:28 PM

Hmmm 100 G5s? when it's on you will get extremely giddy!

williamwbishop 01-15-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Capt_Caveman
Agreed. I almost want to cringe everytime I see that "classic-mode" starting up. Unfortunately, where I work, we have to use some third-party applications that I think have a development cycle in the order of decades rather than months/years. But the GUI is pretty remarkable and has some really cool features that I haven't seen anywhere else. Wish they'd come out with an x86 version as I'd probably have to sell a kidney or two in order to afford one for home:). I'm actually pretty fired up as I just found out we're building a parrallel computing grid composed of 100 G5s with 8Gb of RAM each. Should be pretty cool once it comes online.
What are you planning to run on the grid?

Capt_Caveman 01-15-2004 06:57 PM

Doom. Just kidding.

Analysis of really big genetic data sets to try and identify genes that are associated with specific diseases.


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