Microsoft: We can beat linux without longhorn
 

This post means nothing unless you add your own comments about the article. What's the point otherwise? Do you want the people here to discuss that article or what?

Personally I don't care about such statements/press releases issuing from Microsoft, so I won't comment on them.

i feel pretty sad.. just after reading the articles. what u do think on the article? are linux going to lose?

There is no winner/loser situation in this area, no matter how much people want it that way.

Neither will Microsoft manage to kill Linux, nor will Linux be able to overthrow Microsoft in the forseeable future.

Why worry? Microsoft will keep feeding the public with its own propaganda. The Linux community will do the same in forums like these. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

The world is a large enough place, believe me, for more than two operating systems. Microsoft can never wipe out its competitors: especially the open-source competitors.

M$ Idiots, they are losing mega-millions in the overseas markets, (India, Korea, China, etc) and their Stock has lost 110 dollars a share.................. and Longhorn is going to be just another win ME flop...........LOL

The thing that is pathetic is that with all the talk that "Linux is not a threat" to "Windows is far superior to Linux", rather than allow people to truely judge for theselves, they would stick a knife in Tux's back and stomp him into the ground the first chance they get.
Chances are that Linux will be around for quite a while, but do not for an instant think that M$ is not wanting to do it in.

but, in the article, it mentioned,

We are re-architecting the messaging bus, the interface, storage system and also providing avenues and paths for other products to take advantage of the operating system, such as WinFS, Indigo and Avalon,

and then, they are assigning some opensource engineer to study linux. they are learning from their enemy. then, improving their crappy software. and that's pretty worrying...that longhorn will going to fight back.

insane rant on

Don't fall for the "posturing". Let me first say that i don't care what Microsoft wants to do in the market. I use Gentoo on my box. Its a registered non-profit organization (and Canada-based - no bias here;)). The people who develop Linux/Unix programs for fun will not be shoved aside simply because an opressive company wants to make even more money. WinFS will not make it in the first Longhorn as well as several other seemingly important elements. Its nto going to be much more than a glorified XP for most people. Hell, my tiny XP install (it only gets 4G of my drive and no more!) even looks like Longhorn, as i have a most excellent theme pack wrapped around it.

If you want the goods on what Longhorn is supposedly going to do to revolutionize computing, just download the little demo videos on the MSDN longhorn site. Watch and see what they are planning to "improve productivity". i think the first thing you'll notice is that 1/2 of the ideas aren't new and they don't need any special Longhorn stuff. the other 1/2 of the things that will "revolutionize" computing will cause so much work retraining that they may never materialize. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that someone is dreaming out there, but i sure as hell don't want to have to completely disrupt the way I do things simply to try someone else's way. Sometimes "timesaving" devices/software cause much more work than they ever promise to save.

/insane rant off

Remember this is not really a competition for market. Who cares? I love Linux. I occasionally use Windows. They get the job done....differently. Vive la difference!

For some reason that statement reminded me of a movie I used to watch every New Year's day called "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid". i can't remember much of it, but it'd be sure cute if someone made a tux picture wearing a plaid jacket. or, am I just a bit too twisted.......

Mommy, I'm tho thcared... wooo...
:D :D

Microsoft can try all they want. They can learn from their enemies, but they can never overcome them. No matter what, the GNU GPL will stand good in any court of law against any attempts by Microsoft to turn the open technologies into Bill Gates' personal property.

So far from doing in Linux, Microsoft will only be helping the open-source community if they steal the ideas. Remember, the GPL says that any modifications done to the GPLed source code should be released to the general public.

If the GPL is held good in any court of Law, then Microsoft will think ten times before using open-source code in their operating systems.

They can change whatever they want. It doesn't matter. How often does Linux go through major changes such as the ones they described? A lot more often than Windows, apparently. And they've assigned engineers to study the competition? Oooooh... The fact is, many of the people right here in this forum can study Windows just by rebooting their computers.

They also brag about how tightly coupled their system is, which I can only assume(correct me if I'm wrong) that they mean how tightly integrated all the parts of their system are. That's exactly the thing that messed up Windows 95 - Xp. Everything is so deeply locked together, that to change part of it, they'd have to change almost everything else, which is pretty much what Longhorn is a result of. That may make it a little faster, although that speed boost is quickly negated by bloat and the inevitable swarm of adware that will hit it about ten seconds after the first vulnerability is found. Not to mention that such integration comes back to bite them on the butt when they realize they left a nasty bug in it so deep in that they can't fix it without breaking compatability with most of their programs. It also hurts when they leave faulty drivers running in kernel space.

That's all theoretical, maybe their new OS will actually redeem the company, at least as far as software quality goes. I find it sad that it takes the threat of competition(their biggest fear, obviously) to make them get up and start designing decent programs, though. Let's face it, for the last few years their products have looked like what's left floating in the toilet after a three hour long session of excremeditation.

"I say nothing could be further from the truth. From an innovation perspective [and] technical perspective, I've got everything I need today for a value platform.""

tell that to potential longhorn customers :D

Actually.. this battle Linux VS Microsoft has gone on for soo long. Why don't they just fight fair and just let Microsoft gives their best software without some linux supporters keeps producing and uploading tons of viruses to terrorize Microsoft's product. What's the diffference of them with terrorist in the real world. Anyway, user's have the rights to choose whichever OS they want. Although Linux claims that they've dominate the Server OS field, Linux still cannot match Microsoft in the multimedia compatibility, software &hardware compatibility and user friendliness.
Linux are mostly used by people who thinks that experts in the computer field and they are trying to show off to the people around them that they can type lots of complicated command instead of using some cute GUIs. Most hackers also utilize Linux to hack and break Windows down. Why? I wonder! Cause they are too affraid to admit that Windows is just the better OS and they need to do something to make it look bad like creating lots of viruses for it and keeps looking for flaws in Windows OS. For me, Windows and Linux are just the same. Linux also have lots of vulnerability in it security, only that now its a open source and not much people want to exploit it cause there's no glory in doing that.
Well.. I think that the BEST way is just to let Windows users use window and Linux users use linux. This is just a win win lose lose situation. Hackers and virus author just leave Microsoft alone and let Windows show its full capabilities in its own glory.

Wow! I didn't know I was smart enough to write a virus, let alone on Linux and have it immediately portable to Windows! Thanks for pointing that out. Now that I know that I'm such a good virus writer, I can get that dream job at the security company! Thanks!



C'mon! Read a little before you spout off....

...and yes, people, I occasionally respond to such trolls (once a year or so ;))