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Anyone who found out how to hack Linux easily would make much more out of it than he ever could by hacking Windows. So why do we never hear about it happening? |
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"An immutable distro ensures that the operating system's core remains unchanged. The root file system for an immutable distro remains read-only, making it possible to stay the same across multiple instances. Of course, you can change things if you would like to. But, the ability remains disabled by default." Which I'm interpreting to mean that the read-only setting can be changed, after which "root" can change things. Naturally there are reasons to have security, especially for an organization which, for various purposes, may well allow some sort of access to some of their systems, from the outside. I would expect that having a so called "Immutable distribution" is an attempt to minimize the number of programs which could be exploited to gain some degree of control of a system, from outside. |
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I have used DSL, TinyCore, Puppy Linux, and others this way. It is just the trick for a firewall or other edge device that may suffer attacks from external threat agents (There is nothing they can change that will survive a reboot!). |
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I saw post #3664 before. I've looked at it again, and I'm sorry if you feel I should be thinking of something you intended, but I'm not. There are various ways to boot from a DVD. Some DVD's are writable. So could you please be more specific. |
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When I saw people commenting on immutable distros., I wondered, just in general, if someone starts with a distro. which is not immutable, what type of changes would need to be made to the distro. to allow it to function as an immutable distro? Then I saw comments such as this:
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So just placing a distro. which is not intended to be immutable, on a DVD and running it from the DVD, I can be almost certain that it might not function at all, but at the very least, would have some functionality impaired. It seems that what I should do is, when I get to the point at which I have the time to satisfy my curiosity in detail, I'll grab an immutable distro. and look through it. Thanks for the responses. |
Coming back (used it at work quite a bit) to Unix/Linux after about 20 years or so, as retiree, I see all these distributions
and related new (for me) things like Haiku, I stumbled upon a discussion in a Haiku forum, where one poster vehemently trashed Haiku and also Linux. His main points of attack were (I put Linux and Haiku etc. in the same basket, as he did, and call it just Linux): 1) Windows/Apple 'just works out of the box', i.e all HW is properly detected, no need to hunt all over the net and forums (like this good one) 2) Windows/Apple more stable, 'never crashed' 3) Trust salaried professionals more than 'a bunch of volunteers'. My own experience: 1) True for the 'just works' part, not sure yet about the frequent need for 'hunting' in Linux, just started with some 'live' sessions. 2) Don't know yet (just starting with Linux again), but XP, Vista, 7, 8,1, 10 indeed never crashed on me, over decades. I still have machines running all of them just fine. 3) Double-edged. Because Windows and Apple are ultra-commercial I trust them less and less. Their intrusiveness and over-reach is getting unbearable, see Apple's over-expensive 'eco system' and Window's big brother attitude (starting in full with 8/10/11, 7 is fine) Resulting question: What can you, the Linux 'pros', tell someone like me, who starts to hate Windows (never used Apple much), but who also is still a bit nervous about the attack points listed above, because he on one hand wants an OS that 'just works' for every-day tasks, like Win 7, but on the other wants to enjoy the freedom (also financially, but less important) and comfortable real 'tech' smell of Linux, as opposed to the big brother and useless gimmicks smell of Windows and the secluded price rip-off of Apple. |
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