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bsth123 03-11-2017 02:55 PM

can't get wireless to work
 
I can't get wireless to work
Code:

        Subsystem: Dell Device 06b0
06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev 83)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless AC 3160
        Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 07)
        Subsystem: Dell Device 06b0
        Kernel driver in use: r8169

Code:

dmesg | grep iwlwifi
[  56.886133] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: irq 62 for MSI/MSI-X
[  56.886488] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: Unsupported splx structure
[  57.375636] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode
[  57.375790] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: loaded firmware version 23.214.9.0 op_mode iwlmvm
[  58.234718] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 3160, REV=0x164
[  58.234781] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled
[  58.235010] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled
[  150.441622] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled
[  150.441860] iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled

If you need anymore info please let me know. I've been working on this for several days trying to troubleshoot.

Ztcoracat 03-11-2017 03:41 PM

Hi:

You're not alone.
I read all of the Arch Linux Documentation on how to get the wifi working and it's not the easiest to understand. If I understand it correctly you need to set up the wifi one of the three ways. Wicd, iw, or wpa_supplicant.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php..._configuration

If I find a way to get the wireless working I'll certainly post it for you.

Good Luck-:)

BW-userx 03-11-2017 03:58 PM

try
Code:

#!/bin/bash
sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
sudo  iwlist wlan0 scan
sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "provider name" key "off" or number


ondoho 03-12-2017 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682171)
If you need anymore info please let me know. I've been working on this for several days trying to troubleshoot.

it certainly looks like everything is working.
so what isn't working exactly?
how are you connecting (try what the previous poster suggested)?

bsth123 03-12-2017 09:49 AM

No offense but those commands don't work in arch. It uses iw, I'm trying to use wpa_supplicant because according to the wiki if you use wpa you have to. I can get this far
Code:

# wpa_supplicant -D nl80211,wext -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "your_SSID" "your_key")
the problem is the portion that starts with a n. That's suppposed to be the accesspoint discovery but when I run the commands to find it I can't, even though it's picking up all my networks. I've been reading a lot about it and I have found some posts where they solved it but they don't give the solution. Others were just too old. I'm using a wired connection. Thanks

BW-userx 03-12-2017 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682449)
No offense but those commands don't work in arch. It uses iw, I'm trying to use wpa_supplicant because according to the wiki if you use wpa you have to. I can get this far
Code:

# wpa_supplicant -D nl80211,wext -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "your_SSID" "your_key")
the problem is the portion that starts with a n. That's suppposed to be the accesspoint discovery but when I run the commands to find it I can't, even though it's picking up all my networks. I've been reading a lot about it and I have found some posts where they solved it but they don't give the solution. Others were just too old. I'm using a wired connection. Thanks

I'd tell you to just install then package but that is silly, you got no wifi. So, then why not try what arch has to say about it then?


Wireless network configuration
ArchLinux

bsth123 03-12-2017 02:37 PM

I've tried all that trust me.

BW-userx 03-12-2017 02:46 PM

rfkill - but chances are the package that deals with that called, rfkill is not installed as that is more common place then not in every Linux Distro I've tried.
Code:

rfkill list all
#to see if it actually is blocked
#if yes then.
rfkill unblock all

as root or sudo.
Quote:

userx@slackwhere⚡️~⚡️$ sudo rfkill list all
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
2: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
3: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no

bsth123 03-12-2017 03:10 PM

I had to install rfkill. this is what I got

Code:

rfkill list all
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no
1: hci0: Bluetooth
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no


BW-userx 03-12-2017 03:36 PM

I googled "arch linux Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 arch linux driver" because that is what it is looking like it is boiling down to? Their were a few hits for this Intel 3160 and archLinux issues. you'd probably be better off looking into that yourself, because that is all I can do is google for you.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193570

bsth123 03-12-2017 03:50 PM

Thanks I appreciate. I'll keep googling.

BW-userx 03-12-2017 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682623)
Thanks I appreciate. I'll keep googling.

I do not know dick about ArchLinux - but if it has NetworkManager - that is what I always use, it always deals with wifi rather well. it does whatever s needed to connect other then selecting the provider.

bsth123 03-12-2017 05:33 PM

It's not that easy in arch. It has network manager also. The problem is you still need wpa_supplicant. I tried googling some more but the posts I found were old. Arch now (supposedly) has built in support. I've been messing with this for too long. Any suggestions about other distros that would be challenging but not impossible?

BW-userx 03-12-2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682650)
It's not that easy in arch. It has network manager also. The problem is you still need wpa_supplicant. I tried googling some more but the posts I found were old. Arch now (supposedly) has built in support. I've been messing with this for too long. Any suggestions about other distros that would be challenging but not impossible?

anyone you want to download give a try and see what happens. The choice is yours really.
I'd suggest straight Debian, Slackware, VOID before going with the "knockoffs."

ondoho 03-13-2017 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682449)
Code:

# wpa_supplicant -D nl80211,wext -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "your_SSID" "your_key")
the problem is the portion that starts with a n. That's suppposed to be the accesspoint discovery

no, that's supposed to be the driver you use, and from your post #1 i see that your wireless uses a different driver.
in fact it seems you simply copied over text from "man wpa_supplicant".
i also suspect that you don't necessarily need to specify the driver at all.

i also don't think your interface is called "wlan0".
from rfkill output, i'd say "phy0", but make sure with the command "ip link".

BW-userx 03-13-2017 08:35 AM

ifconfig to get your interphase name. The psy0 is just a psychical connection 0 - I'd say a zero based numbering system.

BW-userx 03-13-2017 09:29 AM

WPA supplicant

bsth123 03-13-2017 01:39 PM

As I stated in an earlier post the problem starts with the n and the numbers after it. I don't know what to put. and as I discovered it is not wan0. it has a different name but at the moment I can't tell you because I was in a chroot enviroment.

BW-userx 03-13-2017 01:56 PM

wlan0 for most -- I have a distro that names my wifi card bsd style -- I do not know how Arch names its devices.

again sudo ifconfig gets you the device name
this gives detailed step by step on how to it is ArchLinux how to
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant

bsth123 03-13-2017 02:12 PM

I have followed the wpa_supplicant and everything else I could find until I think I am losing my mind. Literally for two days I got up at 5 a.m. skipped breakfast and lunch so I could keep working on what to do. And once gain arch uses iw.

BW-userx 03-13-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682960)
I have followed the wpa_supplicant and everything else I could find until I think I am losing my mind. Literally for two days I got up at 5 a.m. skipped breakfast and lunch so I could keep working on what to do. And once gain arch uses iw.

that ArchLinux webpage is for archlinux by archlinux you show you're using wpa_supplicant not iw if they are not the same. I do not use wpa_supplicant I stop doing that a long long time ago. Opted for something easier to setup.

bsth123 03-13-2017 02:25 PM

I meant it does not use ifcong it uses iw. I'm through with arch. Onto something else.

BW-userx 03-13-2017 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5682966)
I meant it does not use ifcong it uses iw. I'm through with arch. Onto something else.

are you sure you spelt it right wlan0 not wan0
google what arch uses for name wifi device.

in my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is this
Code:

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=root
#i ran this
userx@slackwhere⚡️~⚡️$ sudo  wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
#then ran this
userx@slackwhere⚡️~⚡️$ sudo wpa_cli
wpa_cli v2.6

Selected interface 'wlan0'

Interactive mode

> scan
OK


BW-userx 03-13-2017 02:46 PM

Code:

userx@slackwhere⚡️~⚡️$ sudo iw dev
phy#0
        Interface wlan0
                ifindex 2
                wdev 0x1
                addr 00:24:d7:cf:9e:a4
                type managed
                channel 11 (2462 MHz), width: 20 MHz (no HT), center1: 2462 MHz
                txpower 15.00 dBm


bsth123 03-13-2017 03:12 PM

I tried what you said but it must be different in arch. Accordung to the arch wiki everything worked fine until I got to wpa_cli. After that I'm supposed to get > instead I get
Code:

wpa_cli
wpa_cli v2.6
Copyright (c) 2004-2016, Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi> and contributors

This software may be distributed under the terms of the BSD license.
See README for more details.



Interactive mode

Could not connect to wpa_supplicant: (nil) - re-trying


bsth123 03-13-2017 03:12 PM

double post

BW-userx 03-13-2017 03:20 PM

use sudo -- (root) see if that works. it is a root thing --

you did all of this right right?
Code:

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=root

Code:

userx@slackwhere⚡️~⚡️$ sudo  wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
where in their instructions it states to create a .conf file with this
Code:

/etc/wpa_supplicant/example.conf

ctrl_interface=/run/wpa_supplicant
update_config=1

are you using sudo or root user to issue your commands?

BW-userx 03-13-2017 03:26 PM

Code:

                          interface  -c path to conf file
 sudo  wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf

#so yours should look like this

 sudo  wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/example.conf


BW-userx 03-13-2017 03:38 PM

Enabling and disabling network interfaces

You can activate or deactivate network interfaces using:
Code:

# ip link set eth0 up
# ip link set eth0 down

where your wifi should then be this
as root or using sudo
Code:

#ip link set wlan0 up
#wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/example.conf
#wpa_cli


bsth123 03-13-2017 04:04 PM

Code:

wpa_cli
wpa_cli v2.6
Copyright (c) 2004-2016, Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi> and contributors

This software may be distributed under the terms of the BSD license.
See README for more details.



Interactive mode

Could not connect to wpa_supplicant: (nil) - re-trying

I'm running this as root

BW-userx 03-13-2017 04:16 PM

arch also states you can use iw to do all of this.
Code:

iw command        wireless_tools command        Description
iw dev wlan0 link        iwconfig wlan0        Getting link status.
iw dev wlan0 scan        iwlist wlan0 scan        Scanning for available access points.
iw dev wlan0 set type ibss        iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc        Setting the operation mode to ad-hoc.
iw dev wlan0 connect your_essid        iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid        Connecting to open network.
iw dev wlan0 connect your_essid 2432        iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid freq 2432M        Connecting to open network specifying channel.
iw dev wlan0 connect your_essid key 0:your_key        iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid key your_key        Connecting to WEP encrypted network using hexadecimal key.
iwconfig wlan0 essid your_essid key s:your_key        Connecting to WEP encrypted network using ASCII key.
iw dev wlan0 set power_save on        iwconfig wlan0 power on        Enabling power save.


BW-userx 03-13-2017 04:24 PM

this
Code:

sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
sudo  iwlist wlan0 scan
sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "provider name" key "off" or number

then changes to this as root
Code:

ip link set wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 (may or may not need that one)
iwlist wlan0 scan

get your provider essid and key
Code:

iwconfig wlan0 essid "your_essid" key "your_key"
notice the difference? arch does this too.

bsth123 03-14-2017 09:45 AM

Thank you so much for all your help. You've given above and beyond, But unfortunately laptop is going back to dell, I'd been having problems with my laptop and had been going round and round and round with dell.

They said they could only troubleshoot windows. Well it crashed on me so now they are taking it back, whether I get a new one or not it's going to have windows 10 on it so I have to start again. I think this time I'll install debian and just enjoy my computer instead of fighting it. Thanks for being so great and I'm sorry for your troubles.

BW-userx 03-14-2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5683298)
Thank you so much for all your help. You've given above and beyond, But unfortunately laptop is going back to dell, I'd been having problems with my laptop and had been going round and round and round with dell.

They said they could only troubleshoot windows. Well it crashed on me so now they are taking it back, whether I get a new one or not it's going to have windows 10 on it so I have to start again. I think this time I'll install debian and just enjoy my computer instead of fighting it. Thanks for being so great and I'm sorry for your troubles.

oh dell -- I only have horror stories about dell.

bsth123 03-14-2017 03:02 PM

I've got two other laptops that are dell and I never had a problem. Now it's too late but next time i'll know better. I've also used HP's and liked them. What do you recommend? I think I'm going to have to buy an extended warranty on this dell. I hate to see how much that will cost.

Ztcoracat 03-14-2017 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5683434)
I've got two other laptops that are dell and I never had a problem. Now it's too late but next time i'll know better. I've also used HP's and liked them. What do you recommend? I think I'm going to have to buy an extended warranty on this dell. I hate to see how much that will cost.

Toshibia laptops work well with Linux. Acer's do ok and Asus as well.
Certain HP's overheat:-

Zareason makes desktops and laptop specifically for "Linux only".
https://zareason.com/

-:::-Read the fine print on the extended warranty.......it may not cover what you think.-:::-
Return that Dell if it's not too late.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...ask-an-expert/

https://www.google.com/search?q=443-...ties+laptops&*

BW-userx 03-14-2017 05:13 PM

I have HP Elitebook 8460p been very very good to me

bsth123 03-15-2017 05:26 AM

I want to return it but I don't think that I can. I'm going to read the fine print on the warranty. thanks

Ztcoracat 03-15-2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5683617)
I want to return it but I don't think that I can. I'm going to read the fine print on the warranty. thanks

Has it been more than 30 days?

You're Welcome.

bsth123 03-15-2017 01:21 PM

Yes it has. I already checked. I can't get my money back. And the hard drive is fried on my backup computer. it's old so I'm not spending money on it. I will probably get a refurbished notebook because I spent so much on that dell. I already have an optical drive I can use. There's no telling when I'll get my laptop back. I have a chromebook that's great but I want debian and a touch screen. Yes I am spoiled. :)

Ztcoracat 03-15-2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5683810)
Yes it has. I already checked. I can't get my money back. And the hard drive is fried on my backup computer. it's old so I'm not spending money on it. I will probably get a refurbished notebook because I spent so much on that dell. I already have an optical drive I can use. There's no telling when I'll get my laptop back. I have a chromebook that's great but I want debian and a touch screen. Yes I am spoiled. :)

Sorry to hear that.

Maybe try another distro that's lightweight on that Dell. Lubuntu or Anti-x:-
You might just have success.

Debian and a touch screen sounds great!

Best of Luck to you.

cynwulf 03-15-2017 01:50 PM

I believe Arch Linux uses systemd... so referring to their documentation is your best option.

NetworkManager should be easiest rather than attempting manual configuration.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager

bsth123 03-15-2017 02:00 PM

I tried kubuntu and everything worked out of the box. But I found it too easy. I want to be challenged or i'll never learn to be a pro. i bought a book with all the command line uses. One of these days (years :) ) I'd like to try linux from scratch just for the experience. I also intend to give arch another try with a notebook. I get bored easily as you can probably tell.

bsth123 03-15-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynwulf (Post 5683822)
I believe Arch Linux uses systemd... so referring to their documentation is your best option.

NetworkManager should be easiest rather than attempting manual configuration.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager

I was following the documentation. Maybe it'll be easier with a different computer.

ondoho 03-15-2017 03:17 PM

not sure if you're still on archlinux, but this post should have been helpful:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5682736)
no, that's supposed to be the driver you use, and from your post #1 i see that your wireless uses a different driver.
in fact it seems you simply copied over text from "man wpa_supplicant".
i also suspect that you don't necessarily need to specify the driver at all.

i also don't think your interface is called "wlan0".
from rfkill output, i'd say "phy0", but make sure with the command "ip link".


bsth123 03-16-2017 06:00 AM

Yes but I tried iwlwifi which is the name of the driver. Not sure if that's what it was looking for. And I know it wasn't wlan0. I had a weird name that started with a w. I'm not going sure what I'm going to do a this point. I am going to get something very soon and go from there. I checked and I can get an external hd for less than $30, Anybody have any advice?

cynwulf 03-16-2017 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsth123 (Post 5683837)
I was following the documentation. Maybe it'll be easier with a different computer.

Arch Linux is a slightly more advanced Linux distribution for more experienced users. I suggest just going with something Debian based until you're more confident.

bsth123 03-16-2017 09:06 AM

I was planning on installing debian and then getting an external hd to play with other distros. The notebook I'm looking at only has a 32 gb hd. Would it be big enough to create two 15 gb partitions with 2 gb swap?

cynwulf 03-16-2017 09:40 AM

Linux distributions can all share the same swap so that shouldn't be an issue, but how big the install gets, really depends on you. 3G2B does seem a little on the small side however - I take it this is not a new PC?

bsth123 03-16-2017 10:47 AM

It's a new notebook. My hd fried on my old laptop but I have a new dell that is going back because it is having problems. I always like a backup but after spending that much money on a laptop I couldn't justify spending a lot of money on another laptop. There is a way to install linux on a thumb drive on my chromebook but from what I read it's a little tricky. I use parted live for partitioning and I know about swap. As far as space I try and run my distros as lean as possible. I only install terminator and chromium.


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