i have tryed kahakai but i still prefer fluxbox, not loads more just slightly

Agreed, Flux is a very nice wm, but whenever i have another go at Flux, or any other wm, for that matter, I end up back in good old Enlightenment.
The tabs in Flux are brilliant, but E seems to work best for me, looks the best and gives me the least hung X-servers.

indeed but i have not tryed many others?

I think it was IceWM [wats the WM for be sure it is not Window Maker] ;)

whats up with afterstep?

not very nice to use?

Just not very popular. :confused:

Enlightenment rules my desktop. Ever since learning about it back in the E14 days, it has been home on my machine ever since. It's lightweight, fast and slick-looking, as Rasterman & Co has intended it to be. I've played with Black/Flux boxen, WM, AfterStep, and sawfish, and after using them all, I found myself going back to Enlightenment (this is true even against heavyweight DEs Gnome and KDE). It's here to stay.

And with the E16.6 release, it's support of GTK2 and KDE3 has been much improved and it now fully supports freedesktop.org X enhancements and now properly supports XFree86 4.3 cursers.

Kahakai
 

I don't use any of them, I use Kahakai http://kahakai.sourceforge.net :: Make that a write in

Wow, I tried ratpoison after reading about it in an article. It's .... different :)

My vote goes to flux!

ratpoison heheh :)

What about Kahakai?

Although open motif last release date is some what 10-JAN-2002 (Open Motif 2.2.0 Thu Jan 10 13:39:00 EST 2002) and many functionalities not yet or not full implemented yet, I vote for openmotif, and I please to include it also as option for voting ..

fluxbox 0.96 4ever :)

In the absence of fvwm2 or olvwm or for a quicker machine enlightenment gets my vote.

I have Enlightenment here.
It's everything I need.

oh; that makes me the last after-step die-hard alive!

Enlightenment just rockz !
With his exciting visuals :D

enlightenment!!!
 

i love e16 for the fact that it is minimalist and flashy at the same time.
can't wait for e17

Why fluxbox?
 

I know that Fluxbox is a lightweight window manager, so some obvious answers are that it is light on resource usage and fast, but I assume there are other reasons why Fluxbox did so well - preferred over IceWM, for instance.

I usually use XFCE, which is a very lightweight desktop manager. It's probably heavier than Fluxbox, but I've found it's comparable to IceWM in startup times, and actually faster and more convenient in several things you can do with it.

Suppose I was interested in moving from XFCE to Fluxbox. What would you tell me are the features of Fluxbox that I'd find attractive assuming that I was looking for a window manager on an aging system? Are these features compelling enough to get me to switch? (Obviously the real answer depends on my personal preferences, but what would you say to me to encourage me in that direction)?

I'm a little late getting to this thread, but on my machine I keep coming back to IceWM. I also like Blackbox a lot. IceWM is more flexible and configurable and offers more features, yet you don't have to have a single feature get in your way. I don't think IceWM has crashed one single time since I started using it over a year ago.

Have experimented with WindowMaker (buggy, for me), Afterstep and FVWM (extremely confusing and too hard to configure for my taste), Enlightenment (too fancy). Have used Metacity (default with Mandrake, or at least it was) but got rid of it as soon as possible; Sawfish (default with Mandrake 8, I think, and very nice, too).

But I keep coming back to IceWM. However, I learned the names of a few I hadn't heard of, from these posts, and I'm going to check them out! It's a great way to crash your applications and spend endless enjoyable hours rebuilding your system as a result! :)

Was is the difference between Windows Manager and Desktop Environment now i am really confused. Do you need one to run the other. Very lost.

A desktop environment is an entire integrated system of applications similar to MS Windows. A window manager in comparison, simply manages "windows". A window manager is obviously much lighter on system resources. Which one you use is based on personal preference. You don't need one to run the other, you simply pick one. If you want to run KDE, run KDE (integrated desktop environment). If you want Fluxbox (window manager), use it. The screenshots link in my sig has a bunch of Fluxbox shots if you care to see.

Does anyone know the status of Kahakai? Is it being developed?

How do I install Boost C++ that Kahakia requires? It's obviously not intended for general consumption. I spent most of yesterday afternoon and evening reading about how to do it and after doing what I read, I'm still not sure it was installed. I can't install Kahakai without Boost.

Thanks,
Kent