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jeremy 11-15-2003 12:09 PM

Window Manager of the Year
 
If you are looking for KDE, Gnome, etc they are in the Desktop Environment Award.

trickykid 11-15-2003 05:52 PM

XFce is actually a Desktop, not a Window Manager from my knowledge. Even their homepage states its a lightweight desktop. :)

jeremy 11-15-2003 06:00 PM

Thanks drew, I moved it.

--jeremy

KptnKrill 11-15-2003 07:24 PM

Mine unfortunately isn't on there. But I'll throw in a vote for ratpoison anyway. :)

edit: spelling error

OmegaBlac 11-15-2003 08:08 PM

Have Enlightenment on my Debian box. I luv the virtual workspaces that it has.

Scruff 11-15-2003 08:12 PM

Fluxbox here :D

mydini 11-16-2003 12:11 AM

You know I play with them all...but I always go back to Windowmaker. I have no idea why. Just love it.

AMMullan 11-16-2003 12:26 AM

For me, I love using Fluxbox... it's so easy to use and ya don't have the taskbar and all the other pretty stuff get in the way :)

slakmagik 11-16-2003 04:14 AM

Kinda like mydini, only fluxbox is my magnet. I tried dozens early on and found and stuck to blackbox. Until I found fluxbox and then, other than cycling through the wm's and desktops on Slack 9 for a few hours after I installed it and later trying dropline gnome for a few days, and just trying XFCE4 the past few days, it's all fluxbox. Got bored/annoyed with XFCE4 (which is quite nice, but not my thing) last night and I'm happy to be fluxing again. :)

shadow.blue 11-16-2003 04:24 AM

fluxbox is like a dream... cant wait for the stable 1.0 release :)

andrewlkho 11-16-2003 08:16 AM

where's openbox? :)

jeremy 11-16-2003 10:36 AM

Openbox has been added.

--jeremy

randomblast 11-16-2003 02:44 PM

fluxbox for me, it rocks, runs in 600k or RAM, has everything you actually need, and it's easy enough for my 11 year old brother to use, which is saying a lot.

Thymox 11-17-2003 04:13 AM

Sawfish rocks,
Sawfish rocks,
Sawfish all the way!
It's really small,
and configurable,
and really makes my day!

(Sorry, I'm in a Christmas kind of mood... a bit early)

CharlieG 11-17-2003 05:39 AM

Kahakai??? It's the fastest moving, most featured WM out there and really is a cut above the rest.

schneelocke 11-17-2003 11:57 AM

Hey, where's amiwm? ^_^ Out of the ones listed, blackbox is the nicest; fluxbox would beat blackbox, but it still seems to have some issues.

joost 11-17-2003 12:14 PM

evilwm is the best (because invisible) window manager, why can't i choose it?

Dave_bsr 11-17-2003 12:35 PM

icewm - just does what I want easy and fast.

jsmarshall85 11-17-2003 02:11 PM

n00b question!!!

what is the difference between a window manager (enlightenment) and a desktop environment (kde). dont they both do the same thing? they both run after you startx and they both give you a desktop from wich to work. but i have heard of people running gnome on top of e. how does that work?

KptnKrill 11-17-2003 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jsmarshall85
n00b question!!!

what is the difference between a window manager (enlightenment) and a desktop environment (kde). dont they both do the same thing? they both run after you startx and they both give you a desktop from wich to work. but i have heard of people running gnome on top of e. how does that work?

A window manager just does what it's supposed to, manage windows. A desktop environment on the other hand usually contains a file browser and (imho) other pointless features.

lokee 11-17-2003 02:56 PM

What about 'kahakai'?

slakmagik 11-17-2003 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jsmarshall85
n00b question!!!
Yeah - a window manager is a component of a desktop or, more accurately, a desktop is a truckload of silly crap slapped on top of a window manager. :) Anyway - you run 'Gnome on top of E' by replacing Gnome's window manager component with E. And speaking of, what the *hell* is up with KWin? I don't even think that should be in there. How many people are actually running that apart from KDE? It's just basically a double vote. :mad:

And, no, the fact that it's ahead of fluxbox at this point has *nothing* to do with it. ;) It's the principle of the thing.

nsud 11-17-2003 03:18 PM

FVWM without doubt!!
 
Fvwm beats every WM hands down....it has been there since time immemorial too ;) alongwith fvwm-themes, theres virtually nothing that beats it :cool:
one vote for that...and could u please add that too

jsantiagoh 11-17-2003 03:21 PM

Pekwm Is NICE
 
I used to love fluxbox and openbox...but when i try pek.....i just couldn't belive it, it was like someone read my mind and made a WM for me :D

I'd say... for me Pekwm is the best one

jsmarshall85 11-17-2003 04:31 PM

well i just installed slackware 9.1 and i must say i really like it so far. it asked me what DE to use by default and i choose xfce, but that is a DE right? what WM am i using then?

slakmagik 11-17-2003 05:09 PM

xfce is both - it's a wm transitioning to IDE, it seems. I think the window manager component is actually called xfwm4. Nice work for the most part but I just played with it a few days and went back to flux. :)

BigBadPenguin 11-17-2003 05:12 PM

Just like to add my voice to the "where's Kahakai?" crowd. It's fast, lightweight, infinitely configurable and really purty!!!

Scruff 11-17-2003 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KptnKrill
A window manager just does what it's supposed to, manage windows. A desktop environment on the other hand usually contains a file browser and (imho) other pointless features.
LOL! I never would have thought of it that way until I gave Fluxbox a try (I am totally hooked). I haven't missed a single 'feature' of any desktop environment I ever used. Flux does everything I need it to anyway :)

althepcman 11-17-2003 08:03 PM

Xfce
 
I personally vote for Xfce

darthtux 11-17-2003 08:28 PM

Metacity gets my vote. It goes well with GNOME.

cuerty 11-17-2003 11:41 PM

This was a hard one. For me, fluxbox, and thats the one I vote. This year I change a few times of window manager.

First Enlightment, its fast, nice, but hard to drive. That take me off from it.
Then metacity with Gnome, don't make me a great desktop, also, the velocity decreases a lot. So switch to the firsts alphas of xfce 4.
XFCE4: great, just what I was specting from a GTK2 WM. Great tools, nice manager, easy to configure an drive, but in a few months I get bored of it.
Openbox: I allways like *box, back in the days of slackware 3, blackbox drive me crazy ;-). But this was no so good, maybe in a few years...
Fluxbox: O_O, when I got it running (took me a time to get it as I like) is great, perfect I must say. First I toke a chance with the beta, but gkrellm was show on the taskbar so I say "let gets stable" :p, then 0.1.. Love it! Runs fine, managin it is fully aceptable, dockapping tools... got all, I don't know wath to say... try it! :p

BigBadPenguin 11-18-2003 05:54 AM

Alright, if we're not going to see Kahakai, I'll go openbox, my second choice. Version 3 is smooth, and fewer irrelevancies than flux imho.

lokee 11-18-2003 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cuerty

XFCE4: great, just what I was specting from a GTK2 WM. Great tools, nice manager, easy to configure an drive, but in a few months I get bored of it.

XFCE is not a WM...
It's a DE.

tkrin 11-18-2003 04:20 PM

Many of the window managers out there perform very well, but Fluxbox gets my vote as I have been able to tweak it to my taste w/ the least effort plus it's just FAST!

arose 11-19-2003 01:25 AM

Ion!

matthewhardwick 11-19-2003 06:43 AM

i may get a slap for this but i would like to see kde up there?

*slpas himself for everyone else who is intending to*

matthewhardwick 11-19-2003 06:44 AM

slaps matthew slaps

matthewhardwick 11-19-2003 06:47 AM

ohh shit,
*slaps himself so hard he falls on the floor*

kde is a desktop, not a windows manager?
is that right maybe thats why it isnt here, after kde winmaker and enlightenment are my next choices. But wait there desktops not windows managers, im confused :scratch:

Kovacs 11-19-2003 10:46 PM

Fluxbox for me... I just love it, there's nothing except what really needs to be there, and super fast.

IRIGHTI 11-19-2003 11:48 PM

Fluxbox -- Managing your windows without the BS.

neenee 11-20-2003 10:34 AM

pekwm

kasperhans 11-23-2003 06:23 AM

the new fluxbox is pretty lovely and fast as well

Mephisto 11-23-2003 08:20 AM

OpenBox got my vote, though I would have voted for FVWM if it were on the list. I went through the various *box WMs but settled on FVWM because with a little patience you can configure most every aspect of how it works. O.K. make that a lot of patience.

8nasmith 11-24-2003 04:04 AM

i agree

trickykid 11-28-2003 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by matthewallen
ohh shit,
*slaps himself so hard he falls on the floor*

kde is a desktop, not a windows manager?
is that right maybe thats why it isnt here, after kde winmaker and enlightenment are my next choices. But wait there desktops not windows managers, im confused :scratch:

Window Maker and Enlightenment are Window Managers, not desktops to clarify this for you.

crackm0nk3y 12-01-2003 02:48 AM

agreed, fluxbox owns!

slakmagik 12-02-2003 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neenee
pekwm
I downloaded this a long time ago but couldn't get it to compile on the ancient crap distro I was on at the time. Your mentioning it made me remember to download it again, but it kind of sat around for awhile. I really got into figuring it out just now and there are some things I don't like/things that need work (and either the harbour is nothing like a flux slit or it's broken) but this thing is actually in fluxbox's class to me - and I'd yet to see anything (but blackbox, of course) that could touch fluxbox. Very cool.:cool:

BigBadPenguin 12-02-2003 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digiot
I'd yet to see anything (but blackbox, of course) that could touch fluxbox. Very cool.:cool:
Have you tried kahakai? I'd definitely recommend it ;)

slakmagik 12-02-2003 07:56 PM

Hm. I'd seen that around but never paid any attention to it beyond checking out the site, since it was a waimea fork. I can't remember why, but I didn't really like waimea. Of course, being a fork, it could be much improved/different. Maybe I'll give that a spin someday.

Y'know, thinking about forks and types, there's stuff like xwin.org or whatever, but does anyone know of a comprehensive 'family tree' of window managers, that maybe sorts them into tribes and families? I don't know if folks have seen the chart someone did of Unix history but something like that would be cool for window managers.

BigBadPenguin 12-02-2003 08:06 PM

I liked waimea, but then I like kahakai a lot more. It just seems the most accesible if you want to customise things a little bit, and you haven't found a WM that quite suits yet. Mind you, it's ages since I tried flux...
As for the family tree, something like that would definitely interest me, but i haven't heard of one.


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