Sticky Request: YaST Update sources
 

I think a useful sticky in this forum would be a list of web sources for YaST, like packman's site or the ftp directories on SUSE's website. I have tried searching this and other forums, and sources are listed all over the place. A central list of sources would prove very useful, I think. Anyone else agree?

I'll start the list:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.1/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/sup...1/yast-source/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/sup...1/yast-source/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/sup...1/yast-source/
http://packman.iu-bremen.de

Any others, please post in this thread.

Thanks.

This would make a good sticky. Mods? Jeremy? Beuler?

:( Guess not.

I would like to see it as a sticky. I'm waiting for the 9.2 64bit sources.

i think this is also a nice source for suse:
http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php

This would make a great sticky to new SUSE users such as myself :) .

Thread has been stickied - thanks all.

--jeremy

prophet621
Here you go,
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/x86_64/s...2/yast-source/
Just did KDE update,
Snakedriver

ok, now for the first post:

ARE all of these ftp's for the YOU?

I dont quite understand. Could somebody explain, what sources should i give to YOU and what sources are to type in the "change Source of Instalation" thing?

Tomorrow im takin my PC to friends to the city because i dont have no DSL thing here and i want to get my suse 9.1 pro updated. Previously i used apt for that and i was fine, but people say apt is bad for suse. So i want to go the suse way and do it eith YaST.

How to add new sources to YaST
 

None of them is for YOU. The Yast Online Update (YOU) has it's own list of servers. You shouldn't need to change these.

This list is for adding installation sources to the Yast module 'Install and Remove Software'. What may has caused a little confusion is, that adding sources enables you to install 'updates' of KDE and Gnome. But it has nothing to do with the security updates and bugfixes you get via YOU.

So what you do is:

Open Yast -> System -> Change Source of Installation
click 'Add' -> FTP (or HTTP in case of the packman source)
specify the server and the directory

Note: no slashes in the server entry, no leading slash in the directory entry, do not specify a path in the 'Server' field.

just an example (don't use the main server, find mirrors here):

Server: ftp.suse.com
Directory: pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/yast-source/

To update e.g. KDE, add (only) the KDE source like above, open the 'Install and Remove Software' module, select the filter 'Installation Summary', check 'Keep' and click all entries that appear blue until the greenish 'update' sign appears, then 'Accept'.

From Packman you can receive a lot of recent multimedia packages, codecs etc.

Nice post, thanks a lot abisko00 .

Is this for the Intel or the amd64, or does it do both

thanks for the post anyway, just what i was looking for

:Pengy: :Pengy: :Pengy: :Pengy:

barrys,

Well, I know that it works with AMD64 = x86-64.
I will defer to a Linux Ace to state that it will work with intel; that said, knowing that there are different kernels available to be installed by Suse at installation time, maybe it will work, if in fact, you installed to an intel system with the suse x86-64 DVD. I also know that my x86-64 yast2 won't allow me to install crap that won't work.

I guess what I'm saying is try it and see if yast accepts it(plus you can always use the DVD repair).

good luck,

Snakedriver

I've been lurking about and following Abisko00's postings and so far so good...
I have been able to get to the point where Abisko00 instructs me to...go to the "Install..." but I get the following Error:

Kdebase3-Suse 9.1-10 Conflict
Conflict resolution:
Downgrade Kdebase3-Suse-9.1-18-1 to version 9.1-10

Or I can choose

Ignore Conflict and risk System Inconsistencies


Hummm...(?) I've been busy downloading aand installing all the security and most of the reccommended updates with YOU except for the Suse Kernal source (over 100 mb) and everything has installed with no problem....
So....I'm thinking that I'll choose the "Ignore..." option above.

Has anyone seen this Error before?

Well, I see those problems all the time. Usually a package has dependencies and it requires certain versions of another package(s). Sometimes, these requirement conflict with each other. That is why Yast ask you for a solution.

It is best to avoid choosing ignore. Try downgrading or upgrading as neccessary. Sometimes you might have to try another alternative for a package as conflicts go too many.

Hope that helps.

Also, if anyone find any other good repos for Yast, please post, I am looking for even more.

LeanPudLou:
the package kdebase3-SuSE is no more present in new versions of KDE and causes this conflict. You may safely ignore the conflict (I am running KDE 3.3.1 and kdebase3-SuSE) or delete this package. It contains all the logos and wallpapers to give KDE the SuSE-look.

Thank You Abisko00!!
 

Following your instructions, I have been able to successfully update SuSE 9.1/KDE 3.2.1 to KDE 3.3.1 !!
I live out in the boonies and am stuck with a dial-up connection...so the download took many hours, but it's done now and I have seen no conflicts or anything....so far.

I go now to check out all of the links above.

Thanks again Abisko00 dude....you've made a believer out of me!
Yast is way cool.

OK, so how do you add an update source to YAST? When I use YAST to install software I'd like to make sure I'm always installing the latest version if there has been an update in updates.?

It seems to be easier to write a new message than to read the present thread ;)
See post#10 in this thread!

The 'normal' yast sources do not change in version. However the supplementary directories are updated when new version are released. To be sure to get the most recent version displayed in yast, it is advisable to refresh the formerly added sources (Change Source of Installation -> tick source -> Edit -> Refresh). This is not necessary if you just added the source.

OK, my question was how to get the version numbers to change. It seems silly to have YOU not incorporated into YAST. Why would I want to install an older program version off of the CD when perhaps there has been an updated release (possibly security related) released via "YOU"? YAST doesn't seem to reflect updated versions of packages. Short, I want YAST to work like Synaptic. I guess I don't see the need for both YOU and YAST package management.
I

You can identify if a package is a newer version by hovering your mouse pointer over it, as the tooltip displays whether the available version is newer or not, plus the text on older versions is in red, just go over the list of packages available and check your options to install, keep, upgrade, etc. until you are satisfied that everything is set up to your satisfaction.(and it never hurts to double check)

Once finished, just continue with the download and installation.

Edit: Disable CD/DVD as your installation source before you proceed.

OK, I'll explain a specific example. I've never installed abiword on my up-to-date 9.2 (via YOU). I want to install it. How do I install it so I get the latest version (abiword-2.0.6-8.2) which has been updated from the release package (abiword-2.0.6-8)? I go into YAST, search "abiword" and it shows the old version available to install, no mention of the new version.

Edit: I just figured out how I can the above via YOU, why isn't the information from YOU translated into YAST? Doesn't make sense, or question 2, how does one add an "updates" source to YAST?

sorry, misunderstood your original question (skimming through the posts to quickly). I agree, it is unfortunate that YOU isn't more heavily integrated into the rest of YaST. As for adding an updates source to YaST, I suppose one could just copy the url's of the update mirrors to the installation source list, but am not sure. I think I'll give it a try later and see what pops up.

I'll try similar and report back. Thanks for all the help, folks!

On a similar note, I wouldn't even be worried about this if the base packages for 9.2 were available via apt. I'm new to Suse (Slacker), I understand we are waiting for the FTP release of 9.2 for these?

It also appears there is a way to add a cd-rom source to apt, I'll assume this doesn't mean the installation CD as this doesn't appear to work?

Sorry for the slight divergance in the thread!

Sorry, I have been away for the night. I would like to correct what I think are missunderstandings:

From my knowledge, the company policy of SuSE has always been to keep a release of SuSE Linux on the same software versions. That's why the original installation sources (e.g. i386/9.1) never change.
But as there is always the need to release bugfixes and security updates (not version updates), SuSE offers YOU (e.g. i386/update/9.1).
And this is all that is supported by SuSE.
For all those who cannot wait until the next release of SUSE, they supply updates for major projects like KDE or gnome (i386/supplementary/). The installation is on own risk.
Some other people/projects also offer packages on the SUSE server in the projects folder. There one finds apache, mozilla etc. but not as a Yast compatible source.

To come back to your original question: I think (and I appreciate) that Yast is separated from YOU because of the consistency in the distribution. Maybe I want to downgrade. This is not possible if the packages have been replaced by newer versions (like this is the case for the KDE sources, where it is not possible to downgrade from 3.3.1 to 3.3 for example).

Sure there is apt and synaptic! And this is also supported by the SuSE servers. There is a huge apt repository for you to use whenever you want. But I (and probably SuSE) find apt a powerful, but for most applications too complicated tool. I think it's easy to mess up the system if you do not know what to do.

I recommend to browse the SuSE server for all those interesting sources ;)

This thread rocks my world - especially since I was forced to reinstall Suse after a little chaotic mishap with GTK+ source and package files. :eek:

Re: Sticky Request: YaST Update sources
 

I am unable to add the http://packman.iu-bremen.de url ... I selected "http" and paste in the url and get the error:

Unable to create installation source
from URL "http://packman.iu-bremen.de/'.
Details:
ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)
Try again?

What would be the directory ... and any additional ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

Re: How to add new sources to YaST
 

Ok ... I'm doing alright up to the part about "click all entries that appear blue until the greenish 'update' sign appears, then 'Accept'"

... do you mean uncheck the blue entries ... all the items listed in the summary are checked.

Additionally ... all the items under "Show packages with status" - Delete, Install, Update, Autodelete, Autoinstall, AutoUpdate, Taboo, and Protected all have "x's" in their boxes ... ?

Set me straight ... got my 9.1 humm'n ... don't wanna mess it up now!

suse/9.1
No, do as I said...

Hi really like this thread, but (sorry for the but) it would be helpful to have a list of useful applications contained on the links which would encourage people to use them. Personally I'm looking for DVD rendering applications, any suggestions both as to source and application would be appreciated.

Mad Malc

:)

for some reason yast sees gimp 1.2 as newer than the 2.0 i have installed.if it's going by date the package was loaded on the server it makes sence,1.2 was loaded after 2.0.
so from now on i double-check the version numbers to make sure it actually is an update.

Can someone tell me where you add these sources that are at the beginning of this thread. As I cant work it out for the life of me .I tried adding them to the "Software Source Media" Change Installation Source, But only get errors ,, If thats where Im supposed to add them then What part of the source goes in "Server Name" and what part goes in " Directory on Server" surely for someone who knows about adding sources to YAST could then Hopefully explain How to add them And Where? Ive Tried different threads and Posts ,and different repos ect and Im hardly getting anywhere ,Why is it so Confusing ,Is there different ways and different parts of YAST to add these sources to ,or can they all be added to Change Installation Source , I mean for example what server name do you add to these sources that are given at the beginning of this thread , Can someone try and set this straight for me ,Ill take any kind of help and answer.

Maybe this helps:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=266647

or post#10 in this thread:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...21#post1302321

It is always the same pattern for each update directory. The server doesn't need to be changed.

If you still get errors, please post precicely what you have done so far.

SuSE 9.2 on a x86_64 architecture
 

here are some servers, all pointing to directory.yast (i'm a total newbie, i think YaST repositories have to point to this file in order for YaST to consider it as a valid resource, please correct me if i'm wrong).

here they are:

HTTP
Server: "packman.iu-bremen.de"
Directory: "suse/9.2"

HTTP
Server: "distro.ibiblio.org"
Directory: "pub/linux/distributions/suse/suse/x86_64/9.2"

HTTP
Server: "ops.tamu.edu"
Directory: "suse/x86_64/9.2"

HTTP
Server: "nectar.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de"
Directory: "pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/9.2"

HTTP
Server: "mirror.mcs.anl.gov"
Directory: "suse/x86_64/9.2"

HTTP
Server: "public.www.planetmirror.com"
Directory: "pub/linux/suse/suse/x86_64/9.2"


any feedback welcomed.

cheers,

aj.

@acidjuice:

I think these sources are partially redundant.
The following sources are both offering mainly multimedia packages for SuSE:
I did not check the other links in detail, but I assume these are all mirrors of the main SuSE server that offers the FTP version of SuSE 9.2. If this is the case, it would be sufficient to add only one server (the nearest) of each group to the installation sources.
See here for more servers: http://www.suse.com/en/private/downl...t_mirrors.html

thank you very much abisko00 for pointing this out, and it's definitely true that there are redundancies.

for instance, however, distro.ibiblio.org is a very fournished source which has gftp (not available on nectar.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de), just as ops.tamu.edu.

not checked in detail either, but i've seen there are differences in package availability and hopefully an additional mirror is better than none at all :)

cheers,

aj, trying to learn fast and enjoying a LOT the trip to linux

It surely is :)

Thanks very much fellas , you helped take away some Grief for a YAST Newbie, hopefully these sources and examples will help me understand YAST alot better. Thanks Browser..

please keep this sticky!

i get some freezing problems with the server posted here above... not sure if i do something wrong, or if they just are bad ones... anyone has tried them in YaST?

just to be more clear: the only one working perfectly here for me it's the

HTTP
Server: "packman.iu-bremen.de"
Directory: "suse/9.2"

one...

I've got a problem with this now. I downloaded the new vesion of KDE a few days ago, but i cant figure out how to tell yast to install it from there.

I have all the files in /root/Downloads/KDE/. I open YaST and go to Change Source of Installation, then i go to [B]Add -> Local Directory...[B] and in then i click on browse and go to the folder and click OK. It adds it on the list and i click on Finish.

Now the probs start.. I try to open Install and Remove Software but it closes right after it opens and so fast that i cant even see anything.

Then i tryed the Patch CD Update and i also add the directory there. But when i click Nexŧ i get an error:

error Unable to read the directory './i386/update/9.1/patches'.

So i made all these folders in my /root/Downloads/KDE/ folder and move all my files there. I click Next and get an error again.

Error

Signature check for patch info files failed.
Cannot load patch information.

Patch: qt3-unixODBC-3.3.3-36.i586.rpm

I tryed to re-download this but its still the same, and i doubt the file is corrupt. If i remove it then i get another random file as error..


Did i do something wrong? I downloaded all the KDE files from here:

http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/Mir...SuSE/ix86/9.1/



Help please! :cry:

Found a new Yast source (maybe a little bit specialized):

HTTP
server: www.biolinux.org
directory: soft/suse/9.1

FTP
sever: www.biolinux.org
directory: biolinux/suse/9.1

This offers bioinformatics packages for SuSE. Very nice ;)

You cannot add a local directory to yast sources if this does not contain a specialized structure (see: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/02/yast_instsrc.html ). To install the downloaded files, copy them in a separate directory and install them with rpm -Uvh *.rpm.

This feature is for patches only. You cannot update KDE with this.

Try to use the files from the supplementary folder as mentioned in this thread previously (see my short howto in post#10). The installation will be over internet, though.

Ok thanks abisko00. I cant do the over internet thingy, when i want to add the source i always get this:

ERROR(InstSrc:E_no_instsrc_on_media)

:cry:

I've pretty much tryed all the mirrors i could find, and i always get it. :(

Be sure that you do not start the directory path with a slash (/), and end up in the 'yast-source' directory. This should work!

I've double, triple, TENTH checked it. I write it exactly how you sayed in #10 and the end is always yast-source but I just always get that error. :(

...and what about the version? Do you point to the matching version? Otherwise try a different mirror (don't forget to adjust the directory path). I really can't understand why this is not working. :(

Yes I've checked the version. I've tryed every mirror I could find, but it didnt work on any of them.

Seems I'm going to have to reinstall or something, which is a sham cuz I just downloaded all the updates last week.

:cry:

Ok well I got it "working" now..

It downloaded and installed all the KDE updates. But they are not there. I've restarted the system and all, but everything is still on the old version.

:confused: :cry:

Seems you are an unlucky guy ;)

List all KDE packages with rpm -qa | sort | grep kde and check if the version numbers are correct. Maybe you simply forgot a few.

If you do it the 'manual' way (installing with rpm), you may need to ensure that KDE is not running. Otherwise (using the Yast installation source) it should work from KDE.