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Old 01-16-2017, 08:24 PM   #1
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Question Xfce - How i can install KWin ?


Hi there, i had installed Slackware64 14.2 with Xfce
well right now i wanna install :

* KDE Window Manager (KWin) -> Because is the unique i know when i set to start applications Maximixed or Windowed on specific Position of the Screen , if someone knows an Windows Manager ported to Xfce, can say me the name, plase ????

* KDE Spanish Language -> My native language
* KDE System Settings -> For configure
* KDE QT-GTK Support -> For try to set more near themes (but ever this in long time, result bad)

But i dont find any of that on the repository. how i can install that packages from internet ??? (i dont have the ISO or Installer of Slackware)

Thank for anyone can help me
 
Old 01-16-2017, 08:52 PM   #2
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If you want to install all of KDE, just make sure your slackpkg mirror is set up and then run:

Code:
slackpkg install kde
 
Old 01-16-2017, 10:43 PM   #3
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If you want to install all of KDE, just make sure your slackpkg mirror is set up and then run:

Code:
slackpkg install kde
No, i dont want KDE, i just need a minimal part from KDE

KDE Window Manager, Kde Spanish Translation, KDE System Settings, and Theme for Intregate QT with GTK.

i don't need the rest of KDE, because i dont use, except by okteta and/or okular
the rest i dont use KDE Apps.
 
Old 01-16-2017, 11:05 PM   #4
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Well, Slackware doesn't list any dependencies of any packages, so I don't know which packages you'll need for that. It will likely be trial and error to get it working.

But, if you do install all of KDE, you'll just lose some harddrive space. Installing all of KDE doesn't cause any of it to run unless you start it, so it won't bog down your computer or increase your RAM usage just by having it sit on your harddrive. Plus, it will save you a ton of time in researching and trial and error to get the minimal packages needed for your goal. Harddrive space is cheap and plentiful. Time typically isn't

Maybe others will be willing to research what packages are required to help you out in this, but a good chunk of the members in here do full installs just so they don't have to research these things.
 
Old 01-16-2017, 11:08 PM   #5
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Have you tried http://packages.slackware.com/
Search for content
 
Old 01-17-2017, 07:05 AM   #6
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You could make a full install to avoid problems.

If you want to use kwin with Xfce, disable the Xfce compositor and run in a terminal 'kwin --replace',
if you like it then put that command in the Xfce autostart.
 
Old 01-17-2017, 03:18 PM   #7
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I do not think there is any package that directly makes QT themes work as GTK themes or vice versa. As far as I know, the best one can do is to use the oxygen theme for both.

Spanish support is in kde-l10n-es-4.14.3-noarch-1.txz, in any mirror -> slackware64-14.2/slackware64/kdei/

kwin and systemsettings are both in kde-workspace-4.11.22-x86_64-4.txz -> slackware64-14.2/slackware64/kde/

But as noted in other replies just download then installpkg that package will not do, kde-workspace depends on other programs / libraries to be installed as well, and there is no easy way to find out which ones are required and which are not.

One could go through the kde package folder and install only packages that look like libraries/bindings (for example kdelibs) and leave aside things like apps (f.ex. kopete and amarok you could probably do without). But that is indeed a time consuming trial and error process that I would not recommend either ('minimal install' is not really supported), instead
slackpkg install kde; slackpkg install kde-l10n-es
would be best if you anyway will want okular/okteta too. After everything is confirmed to be working and you still want to clean up a bit, you might try to slackpkg remove kopete and other kde apps you are not using.

If you can do without okular and would like to experiment a bit, I doubt that the window positioning feature you want is unique to kwin.
It looks like for example openbox ( http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slac...box/pkg64/14.2 ) might be set up to allow per-app window positioning too, and the openbox website has info on how to use it with xfce.
 
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:50 PM   #8
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You could make a full install to avoid problems.

If you want to use kwin with Xfce, disable the Xfce compositor and run in a terminal 'kwin --replace',
if you like it then put that command in the Xfce autostart.
Yes i know how run it.
But i need install it first
 
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The only way you'll find out exactly what those programs need are to install them and then try to run them. You can try running ldd /location/to/kwin to see what all files it links against and then for the missing files, figure out what packages they belong to and then install those. But even then, ldd doesn't always reflect required dependencies, just libraries it has actually been linked against. Once you have all the linked libraries figured out, then you can try to launch the program and see if it works. If it bombs, then hopefully it will provide a helpful enough error message to help you figure out what files it needs, then you can research to figure out what packages contain those files.

Once you do all that for kwin, you'll need to do something similar for system settings. If you want to take the time to do that, then that is certainly your choice. But you can understand why many of us aren't willing to do that. Installing all of KDE is especially important if you don't want to spend an inordinate amount of time to get it running. Hard drive space is plentiful and GBs are cheap, but (hopefully) your time isn't cheap.

It's your computer and it's obviously up to you on what to do on the computer, but don't be surprised if someone doesn't want to spend a massive amount of time tracking down dependencies for something like this.

Good luck with whatever your choice ends up being
 
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Old 01-17-2017, 08:59 PM   #10
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If you want a minimal KDE, you might check the SLAX-sources:

http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/slax/S...-sources/kde4/

The dependencies for okular are listed here:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...7/#post5631551

So for a minimal KDE, okular and okteta, I would install:

kactivities
kde-baseapps
kde-runtime
kde-workspace
kdelibs
libexiv2
libkscreen
kdegraphics-mobipocket

Okteta apparently only needs kdelibs (as does kdegraphics-mobipocket)
 
Old 01-18-2017, 02:02 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heyjann View Post
I do not think there is any package that directly makes QT themes work as GTK themes or vice versa. As far as I know, the best one can do is to use the oxygen theme for both.

Spanish support is in kde-l10n-es-4.14.3-noarch-1.txz, in any mirror -> slackware64-14.2/slackware64/kdei/

kwin and systemsettings are both in kde-workspace-4.11.22-x86_64-4.txz -> slackware64-14.2/slackware64/kde/

But as noted in other replies just download then installpkg that package will not do, kde-workspace depends on other programs / libraries to be installed as well, and there is no easy way to find out which ones are required and which are not.

One could go through the kde package folder and install only packages that look like libraries/bindings (for example kdelibs) and leave aside things like apps (f.ex. kopete and amarok you could probably do without). But that is indeed a time consuming trial and error process that I would not recommend either ('minimal install' is not really supported), instead
slackpkg install kde; slackpkg install kde-l10n-es
would be best if you anyway will want okular/okteta too. After everything is confirmed to be working and you still want to clean up a bit, you might try to slackpkg remove kopete and other kde apps you are not using.

If you can do without okular and would like to experiment a bit, I doubt that the window positioning feature you want is unique to kwin.
It looks like for example openbox ( http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slac...box/pkg64/14.2 ) might be set up to allow per-app window positioning too, and the openbox website has info on how to use it with xfce.
Thank you for the Information i just make

Code:
su -c "slackpkg update" root
su -c "slackpkg install kde-workspace kde-l10n-es" root

kwin --replace
kwin: error while loading shared libraries: libplasma.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

su -c "slackpkg install kdelibs" root

kwin --replace
kwin: error while loading shared libraries: libkactivities.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

su -c "slackpkg install kde-runtime kactivities oxygen-icons oxygen-gtk2" root
Well in resume to have install the minimal packages on Slackware i use the follow :

Code:
su -c "slackpkg update" root
su -c "slackpkg install kde-workspace kde-l10n-es kdelibs kde-runtime kactivities oxygen-icons oxygen-gtk2"
When i need Okular i must need install :
Code:
su -c "slackpkg install kdegraphics-mobipocket libkexiv2 libkscreen okular" root
su -c "ldconfig" root

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