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If you really want a huge systemd debate, there are some here and here. |
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Of course, only Pat knows what he was thinking when he typed that sentence, but I take it more in the spirit of, "We can cross that bridge when we come to it.", not to indicate that he has any particular plans to do so. On the other hand, I am sure that Pat is keeping up with his and our options with regard to systemd, if only because it will cerainly affect Slackware if it continues its anticipated path... lots of "if"s in that sentence! |
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For those who claim that systemd is well documented, fine. I guess there are those who are contend with one liners documentation. The coding (formatting) is bad and that is a fact go read the source and you will know what i'm talking about.
I am speaking from experience. I ran systemd on fedora for 2 months and it kept freezing for no good reasons. I have to reboot my system to recover. I nvr have this problem when I run slackware on the same system. As for those who doesn't know how crappy systemd is, check out the zero day exploits here. To date, still no patch available. I am not making a baseless bias claim against it. I gave up slackware for fedora, briefly. Yes, I was enticed by the slightly faster boot time as well as the integration with plymouth. but after 2 months, no. just NO. I am sticking with slackware for good. It may not have the red herring that other distros have, but at least it is a highly stable and usable system. that's what counts in the end. Looking at the way they structure systemd (if there's any at all) i think they will have a very very VERY hard time fixing all the bugs in this frankenstein. |
and just for the record, Poettering would prefer not to be told that his doing a bad job.
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This thread's reading is becoming increasingly boring, as expected and as occurred with its ancestors.
And in my opinion it won't influence Pat's decisions about future of Slackware. |
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I think there's a soon farewell to both old init scripts and X11. As a desktop user I don't hate systemd. It actually makes automatic use out of all this crap we have in the kernel like cgroups so you should get better priority on your running processes.
Wayland should also be a lot better than X, but I'm slightly taken back by the fact that we're replacing the legendary 25 year old X Window System with something called WAYLAND. What does that even mean? Wayland. No one could come up with a better name? |
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I'm going to keep following this thread this system D thing gets people all fired up
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