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T3slider 09-24-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisforlife (Post 4108096)
I personally wouldn't consider this a personal chat if it was in a public IRC channel but that is just me. This isn't any different then quoting Linus on this forum from a different source in my opinion.

Linus consented to be interviewed for public consumption...

Bull3t 09-24-2010 05:02 PM

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Bull3t, did you ask the two IRC chatters if they would be OK with you posting that here? It is considered poor form to spread personal chats elsewhere I'm sure...
No, they weren't asked, and I still stay in the chat and talk to them. They do help me out occasionally with linux but as soon as I brought up Slackware then they started bashing it. I'm sure if I would have kept the convo going then they would have said a lot more but I had work to do..

Richard Cranium 09-25-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 4108084)
Hi,



Would you mind defining the vanilla Linux Kernel statement? Please structure the sentences a bit since the original gave me a headache trying to read for understanding.

I don't see a vanilla kernel defined anywhere in the above.

You are joking, aren't you?

qweasd 09-25-2010 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium (Post 4108384)
You are joking, aren't you?

He's got one thing right: my sentence structure was pretty atrocious ;)

mcnalu 09-25-2010 02:51 AM

For me, learning and using slackware was one of the most worthwhile things I've done.

H_TeXMeX_H 09-25-2010 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewisforlife (Post 4108096)
I personally wouldn't consider this a personal chat if it was in a public IRC channel but that is just me. This isn't any different then quoting Linus on this forum from a different source in my opinion.

It's not just you, I fully agree that public IRC is public, and therefore anyone can do whatever they want with the logs. As long as you attribute the comments to the users that said them, I don't see a problem.

Even on this forum, I don't see a problem with quoting other people, even if from a different thread, and even from a different forum. Is there a problem with this ? This is a public forum, is it not ?

onebuck 09-25-2010 07:21 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Cranium (Post 4108384)
You are joking, aren't you?

The kernel choices for Slackware are not vanilla, read the announcement for kernel types. The statement was misleading and doesn't provide the proper definition(s) for a new user.

:hattip:

onebuck 09-25-2010 07:23 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by qweasd (Post 4108451)
He's got one thing right: my sentence structure was pretty atrocious ;)

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The kernel choices for Slackware are not vanilla, read the announcement for kernel types. The statement was misleading and doesn't provide the proper definition(s) for a new user.
So what's wrong with the above? What's incorrect in my original post to you?

Alien Bob 09-25-2010 08:08 AM

Please stop the semantic war. He was not referring to the choices offered during installation, he is referring to the fact that Slackware kernels are built from the original kernel source, minimally patched only where it was unavoidable, not adding vendor-specific functionality. That is why Slackware kernels are called "vanilla".

Eric

onebuck 09-25-2010 08:36 AM

Hi,

May be semantics to you but a newbie or new user doesn't understand all the choices that are available. That's my point. Expand the definitions so everyone can understand.

Tech speak or terminology doesn't always provide service nor definitions a new user can understand. We as users can overlook since hopefully we understand the terms.

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Originally Posted by qweasd (Post 4108113)
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vanilla#Adjective

I was using it in a 3rd sense, meaning, more or less, "upstream". I was under an impression that the Slackware team does not modify the kernel they get from the upstream as much as a lot of other distributions. Something I read somewhere, so may be I am wrong.

So if you feel it's a semantics war to you then so be it. The poster did expand his definition.
:hattip:

H_TeXMeX_H 09-25-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 4108601)
Please stop the semantic war. He was not referring to the choices offered during installation, he is referring to the fact that Slackware kernels are built from the original kernel source, minimally patched only where it was unavoidable, not adding vendor-specific functionality. That is why Slackware kernels are called "vanilla".

Eric

I agree ... it is as vanilla as you can get while maintaining security and stability.

Alien Bob 09-25-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 4108614)
So if you feel it's a semantics war to you then so be it. The poster did expand his definition.
:hattip:

No offense was intended. The term "vanilla kernel" is often used to describe a kernel that was created from (almost) unpatched kernel source, but a new Linux user may not be aware of that.

Eric

GazL 09-25-2010 09:11 AM

Can I have mine with a flake in it?

onebuck 09-25-2010 09:20 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 4108638)
No offense was intended. The term "vanilla kernel" is often used to describe a kernel that was created from (almost) unpatched kernel source, but a new Linux user may not be aware of that.

Eric

No offense taken!

I really think as experienced users, we tend to overlook things a bit and make too many assumptions. Slackware is a world distribution and a lot of the users are not fully aware of terminology to begin with so we need to communicate in the sense they can understand. Sure a bit harder but doable. The LQ Slackware community will benefit along with helping new users with Slackware problems/issues.
:hattip:

brianL 09-25-2010 10:23 AM

I've written this before, but at my age one tends to repeat oneself. :)
Slackware = Vanilla
Debian = Raspberry Ripple
Ubuntu = Chocolate
Mint = Mint


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