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bioe007 01-31-2007 03:26 PM

back to this problem again.. i still can not get X to run on this box. it seems to start fine, and then after ~20seconds the screen just goes black.
Quote:

ctrl+alt+BkSpc or ctrl+alt+F6 (probably followed with a Ctrl+C).
does nothing. i have to push the on/off interlock to get it back.

i'd like to post my xorg.conf but since X isnt running i'm not sure how to navigate here and post that. (Using links?) is there some CLI forum browser i should try?

thanks

bioe007 02-01-2007 11:46 PM

I hate talking to myself, but i'll just keep posting progress (or lack of) reports and maybe someone will see what i'm doing wrong.

-I tried using gtf 1280 1024 60 and put the resulting modeline into xorg.conf, that didn't help.

-Retried with stock 2.4.33 and my own 2.6.19.1 kernel.

-When I tweak the horizsync and vertical refresh params in xorg it seems like instead of crashing, i just can't see some things in KDE, like the kmenu text and window backgrounds. Also during the kde bootsplash the background looks like a bad day at woodstock.

-There is a wierd error during the bios part of boot up, that says "ECC timings are not supported by GMCH" - this may be because I have randomly shuttled freebie ram sticks into this box and the intel GMCH can't handle ECC timings? I don't know if thats the problem or if the GMCH will just ignore the ECC timings?

I am fishing for anything here... many thanks

bioe007 02-07-2007 11:13 PM

the saga continues...

i just removed kde and X [3.4? and 6.8] from the stock 10.2 install.

Then re-installed the 11.0 x and kde [6.9 and 3.5] packages. I now get a beautiful x-server, but only for long enough to tell me kde wasn't installed properly.

well fortuitously I'm still new enough that I did the full install using 10.2, and so I tried starting X using fluxbox instead. But much to my dismay it does not work either.. Fluxbox complained about some font path or problem (sorry I am on diff machine now so can't cut & paste)

Are there any other packages that require upgrading when moving from one version of X to another?

H_TeXMeX_H 02-07-2007 11:17 PM

So, uhhh ... I kinda missed your saga here, but you're trying to install 10.2 and then 11.0 over that ? That's crazy if you ask me. Install one or the other ... or am I misunderstanding ?

bioe007 02-08-2007 01:56 AM

:D ...my saga?

more aptly my trilogy.. I have three computers I'm simultaneously learning Linux and Slackware on..


(to spare you having to read my saga.. er.. trilogy)
I have slack10.2 already installed on a Tiny PIII (550Mhz) with i810 chipset and now 256MB Ram and 17GB and 80GB IDEs.

My trouble is that no matter what I've done - I can not get X to run on this thing.

As a last resort I tried upgrading X11/KDE (see previous post). Of course I've done the usual, xorgconfig vs xorgsetup vs etc etc... I can say that after removepkg <oldX11> ... installpkg <newX11> xorgsetup makes a good .config file, it is only kde/fluxbox that no longer seems to work.

I think the problem may have something to do with the X11 version on slack10.2 and the i810 chipset, I have seen other posts regarding the same combination. However drkstr (above) reported using the same chipset no problem. Maybe its the monitor (lite-on a1770nsl), i am pretty dumbfounded at this point.

I could just install slack11 but for some reason I can not get burned slack11 CD to boot on this machine. I've tried many different burning programs.

H_TeXMeX_H 02-08-2007 09:30 PM

you burning it in linux ? what drive do you have ? and what filesystem ? do the disks turn up corrupt ?

bioe007 02-09-2007 12:46 AM

Well, to be honest i haven't burned it in Linux, but the CD's work - I am typing now from Slack11 on my lappy which I installed using the disks in question. I also used the same disks to install Slack11 on my other (work) computer, with no troubles.

The drives are:

Code:

# cat /proc/ide/hdc/model
MATSHITADVD-ROM 8584A
# cat /proc/ide/hdd/model
WPI CDRW-4424

The filesytem is probably whatevr the free burners default to, I didn't think that would affect it. Tho' there are windows partitions on both lappys where the Slack11 disks worked... And no windows on the P3 box.

Hope thats enough info, all I could think of to get the models. I have no idea what WPI stands for, and I'm not sure my bios is really letting me try and boot from that one (hdd).

It is an old machine... I was just pondering, I thought I had seen a post by some feller about how to upgrade 10.2 to 11? Should I try that?

H_TeXMeX_H 02-09-2007 02:06 PM

Well, if you're burning them in Window$ ... then I guess they are ok ?

bioe007 02-09-2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H
Well, if you're burning them in Window$ ... then I guess they are ok ?

^- I'm pretty much certain the Slack 11 disks are OK, otherwise I would've seen problems installing on my other 2 computers.

I wouldn't necessarily ascribe their functioning to being burnt from Windows. Should I try reburning the isos from Linux?

H_TeXMeX_H 02-09-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bioe007
I wouldn't necessarily ascribe their functioning to being burnt from Windows. Should I try reburning the isos from Linux?

Nah, that'd be the last thing to do. As long as you are sure they are not corrupt. (you could md5sum or sha1sum or *sum it and check ... no need to reburn ... Window$ isn't that unreliable is it ? :D, actually it is, for me at least, it produced many many bad burns of Linux disks. Let's see it badly burned every Suse CD I tried to burn, a couple Debian and Ubuntu disks, and even a Linspire (damn it to hell !!!!) disk long ago)

bioe007 02-10-2007 12:01 AM

well, maybe this is a cop-out..

I just got back from COMPUSA and bought the cheapest NVIDIA card money could buy.. :)

If Slack10.2 installs and I get X up and running I guess that will indict the i810/motherboard setup ?

Thats a lot of distros... I have not tried so many, only KUbuntu & Gentoo. Kubuntu seemed to confusing (too much suid, no root account? I didnt get it)

Then Gentoo was cool - but whats up with the USE flags? I never really figured those out. Also Gentoo is a pain to build on a slow machine.

H_TeXMeX_H 02-10-2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bioe007
Thats a lot of distros... I have not tried so many, only KUbuntu & Gentoo. Kubuntu seemed to confusing (too much suid, no root account? I didnt get it)

Then Gentoo was cool - but whats up with the USE flags? I never really figured those out. Also Gentoo is a pain to build on a slow machine.

Oh, I've tried so many distros ... those were just the ones I tried when switching from Window$ to Linux. After that I tried ... well I can't count them anymore. There's actually a whole 2 ft x 2 ft x 4 ft drawer here about half full with distros as well as bad burns :( (the other half is full of junk) ... maybe I should throw them away. Only problem is, I don't wanna throw away good disks, only 1/4 of them are bad burns. (most of these were due to ext3 interfering with my DVD+-RW drive ... I know it sounds strange, but it's true, switch filesystems and all problems are now gone :)

bioe007 02-10-2007 01:56 AM

SUCCESS!!!

So I have reinstalled Slack10.2, and run xorgsetup, then modified etc/X11/xorg.conf (for some reason it was trying to run two monitors one from the i810 and one from the NVIDIA card ?)

Anyways, it is now working. Boy if I had known $50.00 could have saved me all this headache...


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