C# on any platform makes my stomach ill because of where it came from, it's like the SARS or AIDS virus.

Everyone's entitled to feel ill. :p
Imperialism of any kind makes me feel ill.

I'd feel a lot better if Microsoft renamed C# to AIDS. After all I hear that they want to promote 'trustworthy computing'. So lets be honest, isn't C# a lot like AIDS? It will live on it's host like a parasite, draining them of money, than suddenly become totally obsolete and useless, right after Microsoft innovates by figuring another way to get peoples money into their pockets in return for poor quality products and lock-in.

So, I guess you haven't tried that gtk-sharp yet.

LOL, I have Mono and AIDS installed along with gtk-sharp, but I am now starting to learn Gtk+ and Gtkmm. I'm more optimistic about Gtkmm than I am about middleware because I really want to just program for Linux exclusively.

What makes you think GTKmm is exlusive to Linux? Not so. You'd have to work quite hard these days to make non-portable software with GTK.

It'd be quite easy to mix non-portable code with platform independent libraries, but not very wise.

That is true of .NET and even Java though. I should know, my current task at work is to port a Java app to Linux - why does it need porting? They embed Internet Explorer :(

If system dependent code must be used, I guess it's best to put a system independent layer of abstraction in between.

Not in this case. Running Java in Wine is a bitch. They'd have been better to write the whole thing in MFC/C++

I was thinking more like a java.awt.Component abstraction of Internet Explorer. Wine is architecture dependent when used with windows binaries (winelib is theoretically system independent).

In a way they already do, except the abstraction is COM/ActiveX.

Anyway, IE is the only engine they care about/has the features they need, mainly editing. Gecko is kind of catching up but isn't so easy to embed using Java.

In an MS Windows dependent way.:(

Java2 is middleware. That's a valid definition of Java2.

I don't want my Gtkmm applications to run cross platform. I would make it so that they purposely don't. I only want them to run on Linux, but I'm just learning Gtk+ and Gtkmm at this stage, so I'm not deploying anything yet.

hahahahahaha.....

As far as I'm concerned it's .NYET!