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juby 05-20-2003 01:07 AM

.net on linux ??
 
Hey guys heard that M$ has opened up the dotnet architecture ! does anyone know how make vs .net run on linux.. i mean the IDE for C#.. using wine ?..

predicate 05-20-2003 10:50 AM

http://www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/index.html this is the gnu.org implementation of .net.

http://developer.ximian.com/projects/mono/ is the ximian impelmentaion.. Tons of info on these site..let me know if this help.

yrraja 05-21-2003 04:07 AM

I have tried the GNU based implementation and it is working fine. I used it to run Console based applications developed in Windows. And also compile and run C# code.

however ASP.NET, ADO.NET, Windows.Forms etc are not supported yet.

juby 05-21-2003 09:41 AM

No gui based pgms ???

yrraja 05-21-2003 10:58 PM

Yes so far i think so there is no support for gui (in the GNU based version, i have not checked the other one). If someone thinks otherwise please do let me know.

I was able to run simple console based applications but not the GUI based ones. There i checked the FAQs and found this one

"
11.1. Can I use ASP.NET, ADO.NET, Windows.Forms, etc with DotGNU Portable.NET?
At the moment, no. There are a huge collection of libraries and Web server hooks that need to be built, and it will take time to do so. If you want to volunteer to help out on this, then that would be great. The Mono project is already working on some of the necessary libraries, which we hope to reuse when they mature.
"

macewan 05-24-2003 06:41 AM

=)

you'll get mono while messing with ms technology

juby 05-26-2003 03:50 AM

Hi i think guis based on gtk+ are supported by mono...

zmedico 06-02-2003 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by juby
Hi i think guis based on gtk+ are supported by mono...
Yeah, the've got gtk-sharp rpms on the download page:

http://go-mono.org/download.html

moeminhtun 06-03-2003 02:08 AM

Please don't bring the Microsoft technologies on Linux platform. Use Java instead. "j2EE" platform is much more superior to ".NET" platform.

zmedico 06-03-2003 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moeminhtun
Please don't bring the Microsoft technologies on Linux platform. Use Java instead. "j2EE" platform is much more superior to ".NET" platform.
Superiority and popularity don't always go together. Just look at Linux vs MS Windows. Linux support for .NET is a step toward interoperability with the most popular OS in the world. Not a bad idea in my humble opinion. I code in Java though... ;)

moeminhtun 06-03-2003 02:35 AM

Ya. You maybe right. Developers cannot follow the passion always. They just can't ignore the popularity sometimes.
Although I don't want to code on Windows, I can't avoid it when I need to write the programs for the Symbian and some mobile phones.

GtkUser 06-03-2003 02:51 AM

Really? I never code for criminal oganizations under any circumstances.

moeminhtun 06-03-2003 02:59 AM

no. I never code for criminal organizations. I just code for symbian OS and j2me applications for mobile phones. Symbian SDK is available only for the Windows platforms. The same thing is true for all the Siemens SDKs and some models of nokia.

zmedico 06-04-2003 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by moeminhtun
Symbian SDK is available only for the Windows platforms. The same thing is true for all the Siemens SDKs and some models of nokia.
That's just....criminal :p

moeminhtun 06-04-2003 12:44 AM

No choice man! :)
I'm planning to set up my own business, online software shop, and I will be emphasizing this area. (doing it in my free time, part-time basic)
If it's successful, I would quit my job and write programs full time at home. That's my dream and it is imposible to achieve it by writing Linux programs only. I cannot follow my passion. I need to look at what's the potential market and dive into it to make money.

GtkUser 06-04-2003 08:10 AM

C# on any platform makes my stomach ill because of where it came from, it's like the SARS or AIDS virus.

zmedico 06-04-2003 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by GtkUser
C# on any platform makes my stomach ill because of where it came from, it's like the SARS or AIDS virus.
Everyone's entitled to feel ill. :p
Imperialism of any kind makes me feel ill.

GtkUser 06-04-2003 08:47 PM

I'd feel a lot better if Microsoft renamed C# to AIDS. After all I hear that they want to promote 'trustworthy computing'. So lets be honest, isn't C# a lot like AIDS? It will live on it's host like a parasite, draining them of money, than suddenly become totally obsolete and useless, right after Microsoft innovates by figuring another way to get peoples money into their pockets in return for poor quality products and lock-in.

zmedico 06-04-2003 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by GtkUser
I'd feel a lot better if Microsoft renamed C# to AIDS.
So, I guess you haven't tried that gtk-sharp yet.

GtkUser 06-05-2003 10:18 AM

LOL, I have Mono and AIDS installed along with gtk-sharp, but I am now starting to learn Gtk+ and Gtkmm. I'm more optimistic about Gtkmm than I am about middleware because I really want to just program for Linux exclusively.

mhearn 06-06-2003 10:18 AM

What makes you think GTKmm is exlusive to Linux? Not so. You'd have to work quite hard these days to make non-portable software with GTK.

zmedico 06-06-2003 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by mhearn
You'd have to work quite hard these days to make non-portable software with GTK.
It'd be quite easy to mix non-portable code with platform independent libraries, but not very wise.

mhearn 06-06-2003 01:26 PM

That is true of .NET and even Java though. I should know, my current task at work is to port a Java app to Linux - why does it need porting? They embed Internet Explorer :(

zmedico 06-06-2003 03:46 PM

If system dependent code must be used, I guess it's best to put a system independent layer of abstraction in between.

mhearn 06-06-2003 03:49 PM

Not in this case. Running Java in Wine is a bitch. They'd have been better to write the whole thing in MFC/C++

zmedico 06-06-2003 04:53 PM

I was thinking more like a java.awt.Component abstraction of Internet Explorer. Wine is architecture dependent when used with windows binaries (winelib is theoretically system independent).

mhearn 06-06-2003 05:21 PM

In a way they already do, except the abstraction is COM/ActiveX.

Anyway, IE is the only engine they care about/has the features they need, mainly editing. Gecko is kind of catching up but isn't so easy to embed using Java.

zmedico 06-06-2003 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by mhearn
In a way they already do
In an MS Windows dependent way.:(

GtkUser 06-06-2003 05:47 PM

Java2 is middleware. That's a valid definition of Java2.

I don't want my Gtkmm applications to run cross platform. I would make it so that they purposely don't. I only want them to run on Linux, but I'm just learning Gtk+ and Gtkmm at this stage, so I'm not deploying anything yet.

Aussie 06-06-2003 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by macewan
=)

you'll get mono while messing with ms technology


hahahahahaha.....

As far as I'm concerned it's .NYET!

zmedico 07-21-2003 01:58 AM

Java / Mono
 
I installed the latest mono packages and ran Eclipse on IKVM and Mono. The binary IKVM package made it really quick and easy.

Java / Mono
IKVM FAQ


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