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acanton 06-12-2005 02:35 PM

"smart" or "default" upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1?
 
How did 'the rest of you' upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1. Did you do a Synaptic 'smart' upgrade (equates to a 'dist-upgrade' in apt-get) or did you do a 'default' upgrade? Seems to be some confusion in the other Mepis boards so I thought I'd toss it out here to see what has worked for others.

I've got about 30 pgms and libs being held back by Synaptic and wonder if it is safe to do the 'smart upgrade.'

Thanks,
ANC

mos 06-12-2005 03:05 PM

Ive talked with LordDavon about this in the past, the official policy is to not do any upgrading outside of the single MEPIS repo. However, should you wish to you can do either type of upgrade. You are not promised all programs will work if you do upgrades.

-mos

acanton 06-12-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mos
Ive talked with LordDavon about this in the past, the official policy is to not do any upgrading outside of the single MEPIS repo. However, should you wish to you can do either type of upgrade. You are not promised all programs will work if you do upgrades.

-mos

Hmmm. Sort of spoils the 'fun' of having a fantastic system like apt-get. I assume you are not saying that we have to wait for an official version of Mepis Firefox before we can upgrade to it. And I assume you are saying that Mepis is NOT going to have its own set of packages (like Ubuntu seems to have.)

I guess the Mepis folks don't want us to ugrade since they 'turned off' the Debian repos in the apt-get .list and that what you are telling us is 'upgrade at your own risk.'

Al C.

mos 06-12-2005 04:20 PM

no there wont be a mepis specific set of packages that debian packages, however, you are everything is supposed to work 'out of the box' if you upgrade you take it into your own hands and he cant be held responsible when stuff breaks. btw, nothing is terribly worng with smart upgrades if your familiar with apt and know how to fix problems with it

anticapitalista 06-12-2005 05:02 PM

acanton

It is not just a Mepis problem. Anyone using a distro that is heavily dependant on Debian (as you know Mepis is 90%+ debian and it wants to stay that way - unlike Ubuntu with its own packages) will just have to be patient when it comes to upgrading at the moment until Debian gets things sorted out.

Mepis 3.4 is supposed to be the one with "major" changes, ie KDE 3.4, possibly xorg, blah blah blah.

Relax - why hurry to download such minor changes and possibly (the key word here) mess up your system.
Why not mess around with the kanotix distro to see various changes? I've done a little bit, knowing I'm safe leaving my Mepis 3.3 well alone.

Edit: See this official announcement here:
http://www.mepis.org/node/6500

Are you are suspicious that there will be problems upgrading from 3.3 to 3.4?

acanton 06-12-2005 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anticapitalista

Are you are suspicious that there will be problems upgrading from 3.3 to 3.4? [/B]
I expect, as you say, that 3.4 will be a major change... with the incorporation of a new KDE and a new X server. Thus, I expect the best thing will be a fresh install. For those with a plain desktop system and who can preserve their home dir, its not a big deal. But several of my boxen are development machines where I run a local apache and mysql with a bunch of DBs.... meaning they all have to be re-installed etc.

This much I know. I won't be the first guy to move from 3.3.x to 3.4.x. I'll let some of you folks be the pioneers. Besides I tried the Kanotix CD with KDE 3.4 and I didn't see anything in there that I want or need or must have.

Al

sharkee 06-14-2005 03:41 AM

Take a look here http://www.mepislovers.org/modules/n...=5518&forum=6, I use this and have had no problems.

Regards
Sharke

dhlawrence 06-14-2005 07:32 AM

In my case i did a clean install of 3.3.1, no big deal. There really is no compelling reason to upgrade, i just did it for something to do one
evening.


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